>> betsy devoss speaks to assert ten evangelical because she is one herself. we have never had a secretary of education who despises public schools as she does. so for people who want public money to be used for private school tuition, she is a rock star. for people who want public money to pay for religious schools, she is a rock star. but those that feel about public schools and is against 90 percent of american kids are in public schools. she seems to be quite happy. every time i see a poll people like their teachers, they love them. how is american education doing? terrible. so how do you feel about the school your child goes to? great. my child's teacher is wonderful. there is that dichotomy. i'm happy trump is handing out devoss as his spokesperson i was picture her with a billionaire smile which says the rest of us are not as good as she is. it doesn't matter somebody untied one of her yachts and said it loose because she has nine others. >> this question comes from kathy sullivan a teacher the educational trends are trending toward elementary school st

. >> betsy devoss has not been front and center if the response to the coronavirus of the federal government, not at these briefings and not speaking out at the task force where mike pence is leading the charge. what should her role be? >> the federal level there is no competence and credibility and interests and accountability. again, we have great governors and great local officials stepping up. that's where the trust is, that's who's telling the truth and that's where my focus is today. >> one head of education policy for teachers college here in new york told me last week that his gut tells him that there is going to be and these are his words, zero learning during this period of time when kids are out of school. if kids don't go back to school for the rest of the academic year as some officials as we know are suggesting, what does it mean? >> i fundamentally disagree with that. it is a different way of learning. we had online learning for long time. we saw in boston every child is sent home are a chrome book and teachers working whhard every single day. and again you will see a combinat