. >> let me bring in betsy mccoy and let me bring in mr. goodfriend. bob dole for stock market perspective. betsy mccoy, i talked to a bunch of senators this evening. actually, we hit 7% of the senate. i heard a lot of skepticism about the entire plan, skepticism from democrat mark warner, skepticism from democrat evan bayh. skepticism from democrat ron widen, skepticism from susan collins, republican. and of course tougher skepticism from lamar alexander and judd gregg. betsy, how do you read this? is this going to be as easy or at least as promising as john harwood is suggesting? >> well, of course, the president has to calm the fears of two groups of americans. one is seniors. he's already admitted to them that this legislation will be paid for by a $500 billion cut in future medicare spending over the next decade, about a 10% cut when 30% more people will be in the program. those numbers just don't add up. and seniors are worried about fewer hip replacements, et cetera. and he also has to calm the fears of americans who already have health plans th

the crazy cards they were playing with and that astroturfing would be so obvious and people like betsy mccoy would get fired from the medical supply company she worked for. the conservative in the republican movement and corporate interests driving these astroturf protest so over did it and overplayed it and they looked so nuts that was the surprise of august and not that they mounted an opposition campaign. >> howard, that nuts works, doesn't it? >> yeah. >> especially in a slightly paranoid society and i don't want to get too psychological on anybody but it is -- we're only eight years removed from 9/11 and this week which was an inducement to sometimes very justify able paranoia but it sent an entire tone for the nation that was stoked by the previous administration but there's a lot of free floating ill defined fear out there and it takes all kinds of forums and nuts works. >> nuts works is a good slogan to live by in covering american politics for sure. >> in any century. >> and i think a few things, keith. first of all, you got to see that the president's approval rating has diminished

after betsy mccoy floated the concept of fake euthanasia. sarah palin warned of government death panels on facebook. senator chuck grassley fed into the fear, raising the specter of pulling the plug on grandma. with limbaugh, beck, and hannity providing a constant echo on death panels. mr. clinton, we have some 21st century news for you here. the vast right-wing propaganda machine is not shrinking, it is growing. joining me now is managing editor for crooks and liars and author of "e lame nationists -- how the right-wing hate radicalized the american right." dave nneiwert thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> for half the clinton presidency, fox news, which supplies most of these talking points and keeps them running all day, did not even exist. how can president clinton really try to claim that the right-wing propaganda machine has somehow gotten weaker when it's expanded exponentially? >> well, i think that maybe he is maybe thinking of the actual pow they're the american right holds in the country right now. i mean, obviously

also betsy mccoy, top player on health policy and david goodfriend, former clinton white house officialhost of sirius radio's left jab. hello, everybody. let me go to mr. harwood first. have you learned any more about the speech itself? >> i think the seech comes at a good time

betsy mccoy. >> i'm so glad to be here with you today. keep it. but this proves on true. take a look at pages 16 and 17. if you get your health plan through your employer your employer has said series courtesy of the government and will be legally required to move you into a plan the government wants you to have. if you get your insurance yourself you won't even have that. you will have to change to what the government wants you to have as an as anything in your current insurance plan changes. that's right. and when you go to file your taxes if you can't prove your in that plan the government wants you enrolled and you could be fined thousands of dollars. and get this. eighteen months after this bill would be passed the health tauruses commissioner appointed by the president and a panel of advisers appointed by the president would decide what your health plan covers and what your can do, how much leeway your doctor will have, and how much you are legally required to pay for this plan. that is what the bank is saying, here for this loan an

sarah palin said it, when betsy mccoy said it in a different way. it's just ridiculous.ue on the truth-o-meter. >> bill, thank you so much. hope to talk to you soon. >>> breaking news into msnbc, the number of uninsured in america up a touch here to 46.3 million, at the poverty level hitting an 11-year high. the economic crisis in this great theft and cover-up perpetrated by the banks last year around this time continues to add to both the unemployed roles and the distress, particularly among the poor and our students. so, another reason to think about health care. not to mention some financial reforms. details coming up here. still a lot to get to in the next hour or over the course of this hour, i should say. the president going to speak again, continue his speech on health care reform. we'll have the president's live remarks for you as he says good morning to everybody. how is the insurance industry reacting to the president's speech and president's plan? a talk with health insurance lobbyists still to come. announcer: what if you could rewrite your hair's past and gi

betsy mccoy also wrote in "the wall street journal" three, four weeks ago about how emmanuel would behe president's rationer in chief, a fellow who does not believe in the hip democratic oath. alisyn: but sarah palin starts the argument b saying, yes, health care reform is needed. she does think there does need to be some overhaul of this. she does think health care spending, if it continues at its current rates, will only expand our ever expanding deficit so she thinks something must be done, but she just thinks that big government and big spending is not the answer. brian: and mitch mcconnell went out of his way to point that out. they don't like the proposals out there on the table. so to say they're the party of no is not correct. steve: so as sarah palin writes her big book, apparently she's taking a little time to sit by the typewriter. brian: now the headlines. alisyn: terrorists now aiming more than ever for hotels and other easy-to-hit soft targets. that's according to the global intelligence company. the report says terrorists are changing their focus to hotels because milit