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. >> betsy mccoy former lieutenant governor of new york read through all of this. this requires everybody get everything. >> everything. not steak, not that quality, but the law requires that everyone have the one size fits all government designed benefit package. it has to have all ten categories in it. the 50-year-old compauple will for maternity care. the straight arrow has to pay for inpatient treatment. >> the president wants everyone to be protected. >> the assumption is we are too stupid to choose our own health insurance. that's why right now millions of people who were promised they could keep their healthcare are will go herded out of their plans. >> the new plans include all of this stuff. >> suddenly the washington bureaucrat and people like kathleen sebelius changed the promise. it's not you can keep your plan if you want it you have a plan that was bgarbage and it was a scam and you were too stupid to know it now we are giving you the pack thanking that is right. >> which costs more. >> of course. they include these things you don't need. they want yo

i almost sound like betsy mccoy. she has the whole healthcare plan here. the register of our federal government predicted back in july of 2010 that 66 percent of all small employer plans will go away. that means you can't keep your small employer. 45 percent of large employer plans will go away and we now know about 16 of the 19 million individual plans will go away. forbes magazine did the math that's 93 million americans. am i right, betsy? >> don't forget to mad the m ad many seniors medicare advantage plans who received letters this month telling them their losing doctor because of the obama care cuts the medicare advantage plans are dropping the specialists that the seriously ill patients depend on. >> i have a small business i lost my plan. they gave me five options to look at. all five are worse than the option i had before that. the most comparable one is a 48 percent increase. i called the insurance company to see what they had to say about it she said they have been getting calls left and right. she said we can go into the obama care web site to

i almost sound -- where's betsy mccoy? i almost sound like her. she's got the whole health plan there. >> i've got if here. >> the register of our federal government predicted back in july of 2010 that 66% of all small employer plans will go away. that means you can't keep your small employer if you work for a small employer. 45% of large employer plans will go away. and we now know that about 16 of the 19 million individual plans will go away. "forbes" magazine did the math. that's 93 million americans. 93 -- am i right, betsy? >> yes. and don't forget to add the many, many seniors, millions of seniors on medicare advantage plans who received letters this month telling them they're losing their doctor because of the obama care cuts, those medicare advantage plans are dropping the specialists that the seriously ill patients depend on. >> i got a letter last week. i have a small business and i lost my plan. they gave me five options to look at. all five are worse than the option i had before that. so the most comparable one is a 48% increase. so i