betsy mccoy. do you believe the 6 million number?big difference between selected, the administration said 6 million people selected a plan. big difference between selecting and paying. and although the secretary of broken promises, kathleen sebelius, won't tell us how many people have actually paid, the data we have from state exchanges indicates that in some of those states, a third haven't paid. and on the federal exchange as many as 20% haven't paid. >> we don't know how many of these alleged 6 million had insurance or how many were forced into obamacare. >> well, in fact, only a very small portion were uninsured. mckinzy and company suggest the that 23% were uninsured. what do we have bottom line, judge. net net. we have absolutely no increase in the number of people with private health insurance. it appears from all this data that the hardship millions have gone through and the billions, many billions spent on the stra startup and there's no net improvement. it's a wash between who has gained insurance. >> can you prove that, be

gottlieb and betsy mccoy, thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> coming up, many called fornt of the attorney general eric holder. now a prominent african american group is >>> attorney general eric holder, the president's lawless lawyer was at it again this week. he told a gathering of states attorneys general with they only have to enforce the laws they want and ignore those that they think are discriminatory. really? with me is the reverend william owen, founder and president of the coalition of african american pastors. your group is calling for the impeachment of are rick holder and you say that the white house is sold out american principles for personal agendas. why? >> because the person over the justice department, eric holder, is supposed to enforce the law. instead of enforcing the law, he's standing on the law. it's not what the people want, it's what he wants. and all of the states where the people voted, they voted for marriage between a man and a woman, but he has made a decision that what he wants is us to have a society where no gender is recognized and he's

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scott gottlieb and betsy mccoy, author of the book "beating obamacare."tory, the profit margin story, what's going on here? >> well, last friday night after the close of business in a sneaky and illegal move, the obama administration changed the rules regarding a bailout that actually was in this law, larry, section 1342. but most politicians didn't know about it until a few weeks ago. but it's a double deception. we'll bail you out at the end of the year. right? it will make the plans look successful. it will make it look like we're providing affordable health care even though we are not. second deception, they said it was revenue neutral meaning it wouldn't cost the taxpayers anything but just a couple of weeks ago, kathleen sebelius said no one had even tried to calculate the cost of this bailout. >> so scott, the profit margins -- i hate this whole conversation because i hate the government talking about profit margins. but they have been raised and the revenue flow has been raised. you can have 20 to 22% they've raised those caps. that is a form of a

on friday, and i owe this piece of intelligence to my pal betsy mccoy.n friday they kind of slipped in some new regulations that will make it easier for insurance companies. they're going to have more profits, spend a little more on profits than, say, advertising, but that also means we may have to bail them out, too. >> sure. if we're going to give higher profits to the insurance companies, who is going to make up the difference? the taxpayers. if you guys are right that these premiums are going to go higher than we've seen, there are going to be people with pitch forks in the street. middle class families are already getting killed by insurance premiums. they bought into obamacare in the first place because this was going to reduce costs. as the costs are rising, this is a big problem politically in november for the democrats. >> the individual mandate is dead, i don't care what anybody says it's dead, and the guy who buried it was obama. >> that's right. >> it was his extensions and exemptions. march 31st is going to go by and they're not going to hav

it is really so hypocritical, this is kind of >> did you see betsy mccoy's column?t there are people with serious health issues are not going to be able to get drugs and doctors they would have gotten buried into the law? >> there is a lot -- this is interesting. hairy reid says all republicans are making up all horror stories when one of the biggest horror stories anyone on of the left could think of is unions pushing back on obamacare. remember how much money they spent getting democrats in office to pass obamacare? 10,000 union workers in vegas casinos are saying we don't want obamacare anymore. >> so earlier you're talking about this guy in california has a blackout. goes to vegas and loses a half million dollars. i can look at you guys for moral support. slight disagreement. legally, does he have a prayer? he laid money down. how is a casino supposed to know he's blacked out? >> unfortunately for him, what happens in vegas can go to courts they get to take him to the bank. they have great legal standing. however, he has merit to the case to try to settle it bec

betsy mccoy, thank you very much indeed. two stories we are following. great big stock-market rally, really cool. we are up 212 as we speak. there's less risk of a shooting war in ukraine. and john kerry has arrived in the ukraine capital of kiev is about to hold a news conferences, and answer some questions and i will bring that. fox news radio is on the phone with us right now. where are you? in the crimea? >> yes. stuart: what we have over here as i am sure you are aware is a strong stock market rally primarily because we hear that vladimir putin has ordered russian soldiers in the crimea to get back into their barracks. you are there. what i use seeing? >> i am thinking president vladimir putin didn't order troops in crimea to their barracks, he ordered troops around the ukrainian border that word doing naval exercises and military exercises, 150,000 of them back to their barracks. the barracks are not that far from the ukrainian border. also russian troops that have been in the past five or six days are not going anywhere. they have encircled severa