joining me now, betsy woodruff for "the daily beast," michelle bernard, and david french, staff writere national review." you might remember that bill crystal touted mr. french as a potential candidate. betsy, let me begin with you. in the last conversation, i offered an analogy to the 1960s. politically speak, we know how that ended. in the 1968 election of a law enforcement candidate, richard nixon. any parallels that you see relative to hillary and donald? >> you know, i think it's possible. and one of the reasons that trump has been able to garner so much support from conservatives and folks who haven't been previously involved in the cycle, what he's saying sounds very different from a lot of the political consensuses we see in washington. the fact that he's been unequivocally pro police, hasn't floated any criticism that he's actually been more single mindedly supportive of the status quo in terms of how policing works and in terms of how the criminal justice system works, than hillary has, that makes him stand out. a lot of folks are reflexively pro police and don't want to hear

jon: michael warren is all online editor for the weekly standard, betsy woodruff's politics reporter for the daily beast, welcome to both of you. difficult things for political candidates to handle and for politicians. michael, you heard police organizations and ordinary citizens complain the president has to often taken the side , waiting against police officers. how would you ask access the job he has done in this circumstance? >> it's been okay, it hasn't been the worst president obama has done to sort of waiting to these issues really before all the facts are in or sort of all the dust is settled and people have called down. on the other hand, he did sort of question, ponder why we can't even figure out what this sniper in dallas's motives were even though it's clear and clear to most americans after what the dallas police chief said that he wanted to target white cops. i think the president has this problem of waiting into issues like this really before the dust settles and the juxtaposition to that, both of the presidential candidates did take a step back in a way i think helps