growing up in poverty i decided i would rather be rich and thought a psyc psyciatrist would be bett bette. i started reading psychology today. everybody would bring me their problems and i would sit down. >> host: and you would charge them a nickel. >> guest: and i majored in psychology in college and studied freud and all of that. but in medical school, i said everybody has a special gift and i realized i had hand-eye coordination and the ability to think in three dimensions which is essential for a neuro surgeon. you have to keep in mind where all of the tracks are even though you cannot see them. >> host: how do you think you got that skill? >> guest: from working in a steel factory >> host: what did you do there? >> guest: crane operator right out of college. and you are going through narrow area and dropping them in the bed of a truck and they would let me do that after one day of practice is a little scary. i said these guys see something in me. >> host: you think they really saw something or you were just the next guy up? >> guest: that was a summer job and guys who worked their pe

bette midler. >> yes. >> fantastic. >> my friend, bette midler, one of the most talented people. it was really a thrill being part of her explosion. >> did you learn anything, watching and performing along with her? >> well, first of all, i never wanted to be a performer. i was just watching with my mouth opened but hopefully i helped. i did her arrangements, produced her first couple of records. i hope i gave her a good start. >> i think so. >> yeah, i learned about being professional. bette, when you said this is when it all changed for me? >> i was in a car, driving with my friend in florida. and a guy on the radio said number one record, barry manilow's "mandy." >> you say "mandy" and it comes on. >> my life exploded into a million pieces. >> you had been working as an arranger and lyricist and state farm is still being used. and mcdonald's. you said you would have been content being a one-hit wonder. >> well, not one-hit wonder. i would have been content being in the background, being a musician, an arranger, yeah. this explosion that happened after "mandy" was the biggest surprise. i had to go on the road and perform. i said, what am i supposed to do with my legs now? i've got to get tough and talk to these people. i just was not prepared. i was pretty awkward. the audiences didn't seem to have any problem with me. and i'm still here. >> we love you. >> your "dream duets," you said awkward. what allowed the awkwardness to melt away, creating songs that your audience

bette says she will meet up with her and apologize. they will be together at an awards show the billboard women in music event on friday. >> but what happens. >> betteinute. >> so, people are wondering did she do it on purpose because milder was criticizing grande for being too sexy. >> too sexy at her age and we found pictures of bet h midler. >> they were supposed to poke fun. they thought they made up. >> she was too sick to met up with her. >> all right. 8:43 in one second. it is 8:43. hi, jen. >> hi, baby. we are here with tina. she has a day look. so obviously she's gorge us. we will talk about things and some things you are doing wrong, we will be right b >>> we have found some crummy video shot on a cell phone of beyonce falling. >> at that concert. >> you know how long ago this was. >> i do not know. >> but lets take a look at it. >> okay. >> oh, man, wow, look at that hair. >> there she goes. >> oh, no. >> darn. >> and i do remember, backup, and it looks more painful. >> wow. >> it was a good fall. >> serious fall. >> that is a fall. >> that was a fall. >> all right, jen, jen, we have promised, that you will put make up on the girl sitting

betts. >> thank you, chairman wyden, ranking member hatch and members of the finance committee for the opportunity to talk about her employer-sponsored system. my name is scott betts, senior vice president of national benefit services. mbs is a fee-for-service third-party administrator specializing in the administration of all types of employer-sponsored retirement plans. nbs has more than 225 employees located in west utah and supports more than 7500 retirement benefit plans in 46 states. our goal is to give every working american the ability to save for a comfortable retirement. i've been working with employers on their plans for a most 20 years and can tell you firsthand that qualified retirement plans like 401(k) plans are proving successful for millions of american workers. what i see everyday is born onto some important statistics. middle-class families representing the overwhelming majority, 401(k) plans make less than $100,000 per year in 43% of participants make less than $50,000 per year. an analysis by the nonpartisan employee benefits institute found over 70% of workers earn between $30,050,000 participated in retirement plans when a plan was a plan wi