i would bake a cake and if she found out it was a betty crocker cake, she would say, no. she was a staunch patriot, believe me. that is where i got my patriotism, from her, and from my grandparents and my parents to we all served in some way for the war effort. ms. cabana: for those that couldn't make tongue taste good, -- i still don't know if i could try that -- for those who needed guidance to make delicious desserts, i actually asked her later in the interview, how do you make delicious desserts with sugar rationing? that was a whole different conversation. there were a lot of cookbooks that were published as special wartime edition cookbooks that would help families creatively use what they had to produce quality foods that didn't taste like you would think there should probably taste. cooking with little sugar, little butter, or new cuts of meat became part of the war effort, and you can tell she is still very proud of her part in that war effort. here are some examples of recipes that use substituted items. for example, brown sugar and corn syrup were used in place

she is claiming to be betty crocker. she used to be pok pocahontas.g all over her only getting called out by ed rendell a lobbyist working for joe biden. she has demanded that lobbyists stop giving money to presidential candidates as he pointed out she has taken 90,000 recently. last we're we were her friends and supporters now we are influence peddlers and power brokers. no one should be taking money from the fossil fuel industry. well, guess what? she took $60,000 from lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry. steve: nobody is calling her on it? >> no one calling her on that. clintons got caught taking $3 tax write offs for mildewed shower curtains? in 2014 elizabeth warren took a $50,000 writeoff for used clothes that she donated to charity. $50,000. when she got called out on it she said it was an entry error. have you ever seen a college professor that had $50,000 worth of clothes let alone could donate that many clothes to charity? steve: did i not know that story. >> she gets a pass. steve: you were just talking about her ancestry where in '84 sh