. >> and you and betty ford worked on that together. >> that is right. after we left the white house, betty and i would go to washington and get the democrats and republicans. >> your husbands were known as becoming best friends or very good friends. did you and betty ford have the same relationship? >> yes, we developed a really good relationship. we went to a funeral after we left the white house, and that is when jimmy and gerald ford began talking a lot of time and saw how much each 1 -- betty and i started working and we developed a wonderful relationship. >> mrs. carter, there are several first ladies still living. is there a sorority of first ladies in a sense? >> i had a good relationship with betty ford and lady bird. as long as she was alive. that is about it. there has never been a real -- we see each other at events and library dedications come over there has never been that closeness that i had with betty ford. >> when you were first lady, you had a weekly luncheon with your husband and what attend cabinet meetings. what was the purpose of th

your hs were known as become best friends are very good frien did you and betty ford have the same relationship yes, we a really good relationship. it started the jimmy and gerald ford were on the we went to sadat's funeral in september after we left the white house and that's when jimmy and gerald ford began talking. had a lot of time and and so how much each one. well, they they thought similarly and and then betty i started working with betty and we developed a really wonderful relationship. mrs. carter, there are several first ladies still living. are is there a sorority of first ladies in a sense. well, i had a good relationship with betty ford and with lady bird. as long as she was alive. but that's about it. i don't think there's never been a real we see each other at the event and at the library dedication. so in the new what new first ladies. but there's never been that, uh, closeness that, that i had with betty ford and lady bird when you were first lady, you had a weekly luncheon with your husband and would attend cabinet meetings. what was the purpose of that? well, i had a luncheon

. >> betty ford was my friend. >> in 2011 she paid tribute to another first lady and her friend betty ford. >> honestly gave hope to others every single day. >> reporter: the former first couple continued to call plains home, facing health challenges together in their later years, when the family announced that at age 95, rosalynn carter had dementia, she hoped sharing the news would help increase mental health and issues she advocated for much of her long life. natalie brand, cbs news. >> tributes are pouring in for rosalynn carter. president biden praised her as he was boarding air force one last night. >> they are really an incredible family. they brought so much grace to the office. he had integrity. still does. and she did, too. imagine, they were together 77 years. > barack and michelle obama honored mrs. carter with tributes on social media, saying her life is a reminder no matter who you are, our legacy is measured not in awards or accolades but in the lives we touch. former president george w. bush recalled her devotion to her husband, there was no greater advocate of preside

friends or very did you and betty ford have the same relationship? >> yes, we developed a really good relationship. we went to a funeral after we left the white house, and that is when jimmy and gerald ford began talking a lot of time and saw how much each 1 -- betty and i started working and we developed a wonderful relationship. >> mrs. carter, there are several first ladies still living. is there a sorority of first ladies in a sense? >> i had a good relationship with betty ford and lady bird. as long as she was alive. that is about it. there has never been a real -- we see each other at events and library dedications come over there has never been that closeness that i had with betty ford. >> when you were first lady, you had a weekly luncheon with your husband and what attend cabinet meetings. what was the purpose of that? >> well, i had a luncheon with jimm there were always things i wanted to ask him, and some of it was about the family and the financial things going on back home, but we also talked about issues. i would say it was more family

well, i had a good relationship with betty ford and with lady bird. as long as she was alive.but that's about it. i don't think there's never been a real we see each other at the event and at the library dedication. so in the new what new first ladies. but there's never been that, uh, closeness that, that i had with betty ford and lady bird when you were first lady, you had a weekly luncheon with your husband and would attend cabinet meetings. what was the purpose of that? well, i had a luncheon with jimmy. there were always things i wanted to ask and some iwas about the family and the finances and things that going on back home. um, but also talked about issues. it was, i would say it was more family and personal things that were going on. um, but it gave us time to do that. but almost every after we were there until about august, um, jimmy stayed at the, um, oval office a good bit in the daytime. he didn't go, didn't go back much at night. but in august they started calling me about 430 in the afternoon. my office was in the east wing. it had always been in the white house t

carter spoke at a betty ford's funeral. the family asked her to speak. susan ford is on the advisory committee that rosalynn has at the carter center on mental illness. so there's a very close bond between the family and maybe part of it was they both went through the the trauma of of failing to be reelected. now, the white house was a busy spot because two of the sons and their wives and children moved in for part of the time. and amy was there. and and then the national so got introduced to miss lillian and to president carter's brother, billy. yeah. this little thing was really the celebrity. when the democratic national convention was held in the summer of 1976. most of the delegates had already met the carter family, except for miss lulling, because shhastayed home to take care ofmy. so when sheashe carter family member that people hadn't already met. t big push at the convention was because i can i get to meet lillian carter? well, it was exciting to be in elementary school at this time. i grew up in georgia and to watch them go to the house and for

she incidentally became very close to betty ford. in fact, people will talk about this remarkable friendship. here jimmy carter beat gerald ford in 1976. cut to eight years later, and rosalynn carter's great close friend is betty ford and jimmy carter and gerald ford became best friends. in fact, president carter gave the chief eulogy at gerald ford's funeral. you're going to be hearing about what she did in america's georgia and getting rid of the stigma of mental illness. she thought it needed to be on par with physical illness. and she pioneered and championed that. today we're more used to it. but when she was doing it in the 1970s, there was no spokesperson that was as brave as she was. and, you know, she really -- it's easy to roll out numbers. she traveled 150 countries with her husband. she went everywhere around the world. she built houses with habitat for humanity in the heat, you know, hammering nails, without complaint. she would do great outdoor adventures. she loved the outdoors as much as her husband, and they would go

really her closest friend of all former first ladies was betty ford and jimmy carter who had defeatedald ford's closest friend became gerald ford. carter gave the eulogy at ford's funeral. they also loved the outdoors. north georgia fly fishing. butterfly watching and helping the leading global conservationists. it's something they shared. they were happier i think in a rural, pastoral or woodland setting than they were in any building in atlanta. >> let's bring in blaine alexander. i was struck earlier you mentioned there were a bunch of people who showed up. it was a private ceremony. aired publicly, but there were a number of georgians who came to say their last good-bye. >> reporter: and that's something that really has stuck with me throughout this entire kind of three-day tribute we've seen. we're on day two. right now, we're on the campus of emory university in atlanta and as i look past the cameras, that crowd is still there through this entire 90-minute ceremony. grown a little bit. i'm still seeing people watch the motorcade come and go. it's not something we're just seeing

whatever it is, and serve our country's needs, and i don't think that is mentioned enough, even with betty ford and what she did, post white house, starting the recovery movement. i think it needs to be talked about more. thank you. host: thank you. let's go to goddess, calling from new haven, connecticut on the democrat line. caller: yes, excuse my voice, i have a bad cold, but i am so sorry for their loss. both of them were very good people and no one has mentioned the housing projects that they did, for people who couldn't afford a house. that is all i have to say. we need more people like the carter's. . i am sorry for their loss. that is all i have to say. host: our previous caller said she wanted to hear a little bit more about rosalynn carter's legacy when it came to advocating for mental health. i want to start by bringing up the carter center. this is the nonprofit that the former first lady and former president started after they left the white house and of course there are a lot of tributes here. a lot of discussion about the different things they did. npr in their obituary about ros

one of them he was trying to help betty ford. the stumbles gave an impression of him as a klutz. gerald ford was probably the best athlete to enter the presidency was a skier and a football player in college. he was drafted to the nfl and him gameplay but is drafted. he was a tremendous athlete but there is a perception of him as a klutz. that's one aspect for the second thing is the culture is changing at the time. and what's happening to the presidency and the evolution and culture are important factors in what's going on. but for the culture changing in that 10 or 15 years before you could make fun of her present on tv or get a show about lbj in 1960s botched by network censors. and kennedy's era there was this guy named bob on who did the record about the kennedys and he used different accents for the different kennedy brothers and wasn't that funny. it's a legendary moment the records he puts out are sensation. kennedy is assassinated in 1963 and we all know the tragedy and right after kennedy was assassinated lenny bruce the comedian gets up on the stage and the audience is

one of the things that always struck me was we had two first ladies in the '70s, betty ford and mrs.ems of that shift in culture. mrs. ford destigmatizing breast cancer in many ways, eventually, of course, discussing her alcoholism and doing so much work to help people with addictions. mrs. carter, also making policy you ask about would president carterbeen president without her, i think he would have said no. a lot of the obituaries pointed this out. they were the first buy one get one free which was a line bill clinton used in 1992. that was very much part of their political persona. the other thing to remember about mrs. carter is how tough she was. i remember the disturbing news -- not disturbing, but the stark news pictures of the carter at the end of the 1980 campaign which was a very close race until the very end, the last seven or eight days or some there are pictures of president carter trying to put a brave face on it and mrs. carter not even bothering to put a brave face on. she was quoted as saying, i'm bitter enough for both of us. she was a full political partner and sh

ford, former first lady betty ford and they're both toefg health care reform. gether they had a really wonderful relationship. those two former first ladies. but she testified in the health care reform act for the mental health where mrs. ford testified for support for addiction. >> she did a lot of important work. >> i don't think, we won't hear from former president jimmy carter. so if we can, i want to grab this moment to play some sound from him from a 2005 interview with oprah in which he is recalling his first date with rosalynn carter, and extolling what he saw in her that first moment that they went out when he was 18, or she was 18 and he was 21. if we could roll that quick clip. just a sweet remembrance of their first date. >> who did you go with? rosa smith. what did you think of her? she's the one i'm going to marry. i hadn't approached that subject with rosalynn. >> what was it you knew or felt? >> i can't really quantify it all, describe it in words. i knew that she was quiet, she was extremely intelligent. she was very timid, by the way. beautiful

a representative from hazelton betty ford rehab center said the following.t of his illness, and the best hopes for our ability to overcome it. actor eric lange said, this. yes, he was chandler. but i hope what matthew perry will be remembered for most is he used his platform to openly share his struggles with the world, and hoped it might help others. it helped me. thank, you matthew perry. matthew perry's longtime friend, actor and comedian hank as area hank azaria helped him get sober. -- please watch this. >> i'm a sober guy for 17 years, i want to say that the night i wanted to a, matthew brought me in. the whole first year i was sober we went to meetings together. and he was such a great -- i got to tell him this. he was just, as a sober person, he was so caring and giving, and wise. and he totally helped me get sober. >> according to people magazine, was perry making a plan to establish a foundation to help other struggling with addiction issues. they say some clothes perry are still ping to create that foundation, now in his honor. we leave you tonigh

, it was a taboo subject in public and a lot of awkwardness at the dinner table about all after betty ford, her interviews, you know, 60 minutes and newsweek cover stories that this country changed in the blink of an eye and then the other thing was, of course, mrs. carter was both as the first lady of georgia and as the first lady of the united states was interested in the issues of people with mental health problems, disease and struggles. and, of course, then during the carter administration, it came out that mrs. ford had these addictions, and that was the second thing. so, you know, all of a sudden, she made it possible for people, for families. think of the family. is that needed to talk about the addictions that were destroying their families. think of all the families that were changed because now there could be an honest conversation about these things. again, mrs. ford and mrs. carter, i think, found each other in that conversation, and they became very close. and that's why they go back for they always had something to work on and talk about. now the mental health issues, you kn

whatever it is, and serve our country's needs, and i don't think that is mentioned enough, even with betty fordnd what she did, post white house, starting the recovery movement. i think it needs to be talked about more. thank you. host: thank you. let's go to goddess, calling from new haven, connecticut on the democrat line. caller: yes, excuse my voice, i have a bad cold, but i am so sorry for their loss. both of them were very good people and no one has mentioned the housing projects that they did, for people who couldn't afford a house. that is all i have to say. we need more people like the carter's. . i am sorry for their loss. that is all i have to say. host: our previous caller said she wanted to hear a little bit more about rosalynn carter's legacy when it came to advocating for mental health. i want to start by bringing up the carter center. this is the nonprofit that the former first lady and former president started after they left the white house and of course there are a lot of tributes here. a lot of discussion about the different things they did. npr in their obituary about rosal

right around her time, betty ford with the same way.y said no, we are not going to this traditional, we are not worried about china in the east room of the lincoln library. let's do something different. lisa: a great story from the human perspective. married for 77 years and jimmy carter met her for the first time when he was three years old and she was just born, delivered by his mother and he saw her in the cradle because she was the newest kid on the block from their neighborhood. 18 years later when they met and then they grew up together in a very real sense, it is a pretty fantastic story. tom: really wonderful to say. let us continue with economics, finance investment and international relations. joining us on the shortlist to be the new minister of the economy, the chief u.s. economist at citigroup. before we get to the serious stuff at hand, how do you save cultural -- citigroup with your incredible latin american experience? no other bank has that experience. how do you save argentina? >> what we are seeing in argentina is wha

ford family, bob and karen. we always appreciate your being here representing uncle gerry and aunt betty to over thanksgiving. we have a trustee from the gerald r ford presidential foundation who is here co-chair hank meyer. thank you so much for being here here. and we always to thank our great partner, the gerald r ford museum, for being just wonderful hosts of this events. they always do a beautiful in this great facility so thanks to i saw joel westphal here earlier thanks him and thanks also to brooke for their hospitality. always for these gatherings. well with that then i think john there are some books we have the good country in the bookstore and i'm sure people have books they would like you to sign. so let's adjourn and. get to it. all right. thanks a lot.

ford, tell us about that. >> there are two things going on. what is he had some well- publicized stumbles where he fell. they were really his fault. he was trying to help betty on a slippery floor. regardless, the stumbles led to the impression of him as a klutz. gerald ford was probably the best athletes already present. he was an expert here in tennis player and he was drafted into the nfl. he did not play but he was drafted. ford was a tremendous athlete but there was perception of him as a klutz for people who know his history. that is one aspect and second is that the culture was changing at the time. that's what i'm trying to get into the book. the culture is changing and that 10 or 15 years before you could not make fun of the president on tv. with an attempt to do a skit show about lbj it was , botched by the sensors. and then there was a guy who did a record about the kennedys and basically did different accents from different kennedy brothers. it was not really that funny but there is a legendary moment about. the records he puts out our huge bestsellers the kennedy is assassinated in 1963. right after candy was assassinated, lenny bruce, the canad

ford. number one is that he has a couple of well-publicized stumbles where he falls and one of them was they weren't really his fault. one of them, he was trying to help betty. and a slippery floor. but regardless, these stumbles led to this impress of him as a klutz. now, mind you, gerald ford was probably the best athlete ever to become president. he was expert skier. he was a good tennis player. he was a football player in college and was drafted into the nfl. he didn't play, but he was drafted and so ford was a tremendous athlete. but there was this perception of him as a klutz and because people didn't know his history. so that's one aspect. but the second thing is the culture was changing at the time, and that's really what i'm trying to get out in the book is the way that the what's happening to the president and the evolution of the culture are both important factors in what's going on. and so the culture is changing in that ten, 15 years before, you couldn't make fun of a president on tv, there was an attempt to do a sketch show about lbj in the 1960s, and that was kiboshed by the network censors in kennedy's era. they never made fun of the preside

betty bloomer. warren and and they had a a bizarre proposal which have prepared her for life as a political wife. early in 1948. i think it's in february of 1948. ford proposed to her, if you could call it that. he said he wanted to marry her, but they couldn't set the date and he couldn't tell her why. they couldn't set the date. well, you know, she didn't think much about it. well, what it was was he wanted to take my jarmon by surprise and delay his announcement as close as possible to the republican primary. and in a huge upset, he beat york one, 2 to 1, going away, which? which tells you what? first of all, the war had transformed our attitudes and it turned out that john brown was yesterday's man and that ford in many ways was the man of the future. it was a formality for a republican in 1948, in the hall, and he it was the lowest percentage of the vote he ever got, 61%. the remarkable thing is if you're a congressman today and you have a safe seat. and you have 61, 65, 68% majorities without spending any money. there's not a lot of incentive for you to go home on the weekends or any other time, for that matter. you have to really work at it i