come up to a meeting in new york to talk about some of our mutual concerns, and that woman was betty freidan, and hart became one of the founding board members of the national organization for women. two of them went on to become president of the 99's, the international organization of women pilots founded by amelia earhart. wally funk went on to be one of the first women investigators for the national transportation safety board. really extraordinary lives. >> yes. >> i'm interested in the congressional hearings, but a lot of our parents remember this in the early 1960's, but then it would seem to have been forgotten. why do you think this was such a forgotten episode? >> tha that's true, that it was well publicized in the with multiple page spreads in "life" magazine and lots of press coverage, that i had the good fortune to read. but then after 1963, after russia, the story really did disappear, and i think that that has much to do with what might be regrettable american notions that unless, in this case, somebody succeeds in what they want to go, unless they go up into space, then it's r