. >> beverly gilmore is the confinement unit's case manager. one of her responsibilities is to evaluate trotter's ability to return peacefully to general population. >> i know the notoriety of offender trotter very notorious. i believe he has aged out of that immaturity. he has developed good communication skills, good social skills. it's yes, ma'am, no, ma'am to me. and it's not fake. i can always tell when it's fake. i believe, personally, that he will be ready for general population before long. however, there are so many more people above me that will also have the input, and have known him so much longer than i have. so i'll have to respect whatever their recommendations will be. >> i'd rather not see him come out. i don't think he's changed. he's going to hurt somebody. >> lieutenant gary mcmillan has been at wabash for the past 16 years. >> this is my opinion. he's a pretty violent individual. >> they may look at it like everybody's still a potential threat. but am i a threat? no. >> coming up -- >> really my biggest concern about being