thornily put together, we did meet with bevin duffy, there was a lot of discussion around it perhaps it bears having a discussion like that again or maybe a one on one with staff again, it is challenging because what we have control over and what our purview is in this case, there is so much overlap with other city agencies that we don't have control and you're right, as a city, we do have a lot of challenges, the ones we have control over in this situation and what we have control over is in the scheme of things quite small. board member, do i have a motion to approve? 10.2e and 10.2i? can i have a follow-up -- >> if we could get, i would like the get more information as follow-up on this, i know last time this came up i know director reiskin, you know there was training of pco's and people who were enforcing these rules, and st vice chair mentioned, there's been work done on this difficult is issue, so i respect the process, i would like to hear an update especially on training, especially in mainbacker maiming sure the folks that this adversely affects, i mean, i do want to make s

revisit the outreach that is done by parking control officers, by the homeless outreach time, by bevin duffy's office and this is never an easy one for any of us, when this came before us, our first oversized vehicles, we did have a discussion if i remember correctly about what our role is as a city agency and the fact that our role is to address the parking issues, the idea of a moratorium, the fact we've had these restrictions come to us i do feel now that if we don't act on this one, these come to us by neighborhood request, is that correct, mr. reiskin? >> this is coming from public request and from offices of the board of supervisors. >> in light of that, i don't feel that it is appropriate to change the rules when this one is before us. i would like the hear if any other board member has anything to add on that idea. >> yeah, i mean, i guess i feel like i'd like to hear more or get a report on the safe parking areas concept. i think that that is a really important thing. i think obviously we -- it sounds like the major reason we have this policy is related to parking but we also have oth