in terms of the employee group representatives, the groups participated were sf rescue, us fw, bfa, [inaudible] afa, veterans association and the ems association. the employee groups basically provided information regarding how the groups were founded, how they've assisted department over the years in recruitment efforts and internally for the existing employees how they have maintained the support and advocacy for their members. nerves also participated in the interviews because of their slightly different perspective on community out reach. not so much as a direct recruiter if you will but through its training sessions and drills and presence in the community, how they were able to attract community members to the position of firefighter. at the end of those two days, the consultants were also given a tour of the training facility. essentially to show off how we conduct our training and what we currently have. with regard to the report, i believe it wasn't directly stated but i believe that the impetus for this study was that the department of labor recognize that nationally there w