and that will save a p pa re ntly to or e—mail bgp and that will save apparently 30 million hospital in three outpatient appointments. it is a huge thing and technology has transformed everything in life. they are looking in what context it can transform and held the nhs. that is definitely the vision. the question is, always, the implementation. because the nhs, as we know, has evolved over seven decades and when it comes to the technology it is really collocated and some of it is extremely old. and when that... when that word infiltrated the nhs 3a yea rs that word infiltrated the nhs 3a years ago and it was able to move from one trust to another, from one gp to the next because the security walls were not bad. and you warrant that the security and privacy, all sorts of issues. i read the 133 page document last night and chapter five is all about digital. they have mentioned cyber security. it is a risk and i think we need to be careful that technology can not overpromise. technology can do everything. we need to support staff and the main thing is to support the doctors and nurses

the legislation did not specify the development finance corporation with bgp directly. at the same time, in the past, the u.s. development finance has been graded on return on investment, which makes sense. it was not defined by great power competition. walter, we might have a discussion on this. u.s. is going to compete with china. a lot more risk. congress and the american people may have to take a different perspective on what is the appropriate level of risk and whatever the returns if we are going to compete with china had on. -- head on. lastly, -- for this new development plan corporation, i would argue, it needs to have the ability for certain financing, legislation that created it does not create expedited funding. with countries increasingly rethinking chinese investment, there are real opportunities for the u.s. to offer an alternative to nato. i would argue congress should think of creating a new authority for resource financing. in coordination with partners, there are definitely some untapped opportunities. one of them is the on coordinating national effor

in the 1990s when we encrypted things, we had tools like ejb and i'm guessing nobody here uses bgp, maybe. but how many folks in the audience use what's app? and how many people in this audience use apple i message or facetime? smaller numbers but still overall world while we are still talking about billion people or at least 2 billion people so these are very significant differences and issues gotten a lot more interesting. now the result of this, i should actually use this tool. the result of this starting i think in 2013, 2014 was the beginning of something that the fbi at least in the fbi called the going dark debate. the british performer calling it going spotty. but what it is the question of should law enforcement have access to this communications? will we all probably have some information about this. the first debate is that it covers some different technologies. most people are familiar with the debate as far as it is kind of the biggest facebook exploded in the world is the apple versus the fbi case where we had basically an argument about an encrypted phone, a phone that had