bhutto. she reported her father pointed zia chief of army staff, went to visit one time in his home, in his office, his home actually. he comes into the house and the entire inside of the house is one picture after another of mecca, medina. and he turned to zia integer turn your home into a mosque. he was really right. zia was a believer. he believed. he wasn't doing this purely for pakistan national security interest. he was doing this because he believed it was every muslims of duty to fight the godless, atheist communist anti-defeated in afghanistan. zia is a fascinating figure who has yet to have a single english-language biography written on them. i think that's a big lacuna in history of the second half of the south asian, second half of the 20th century. we were lucky in the 1980s. there was a bigger evil than america for true believers to fight. it is conceivable you could get another zia as a military dictator someday in pakistan, and the problem is there's no more soviet union to di

who killed bennett to bhutto -- benazir bhutto.ou mentioned at the and pluralism and law enforcement, enhancement and enforcement. sharif, he doubled the forces in punjab. my question to you is, based on your recommendation, based on pluralism and law enforcement, my question is, in most of the cases in pakistan the prime minister's became prime ministers to an accident. if you become the prime minister, or if you are asked to advise prime minister, pragmatically what is something specifically, three or four steps you will do to bring this kind of terrorism and instability to a close? >> thank you very much. and you are right about the issues. the reason i would like pakistan to click invested in figure out who killed -- in the absence of a very clear answer, a continues to become more popular and then those who are behind killings continued to paint -- they continue to kill and get away with it. we have seen in the recent past many of the politicians were killed, actually of the pashtun party and that it, members in the people's p

. >> but bhutto and garza had more in common. >> i'm charged with murder first degree so as far as detailsife without possibility. same thing. >> i've been here for heat of passion. i caught my wife with somebody and -- >> and? >> killed her. you know, i'm not proud. i regretted every single minute of it. >> so what was the charge? what was the conviction? >> heat of passion. >> you know, he told us he took responsibility for his actions but during the course of the interview it seemed as though he kind of left the door open a crack to say, i'm not really sure. >> a lot of people say i can justify according to the bible or koran. if your spouse is cheating on you, you have a right. god telling us certain way it is but you're better -- he give us -- we're human beings, we're given choice right from wrong. i can't justify what i did. she had a mother. she was somebody's daughter and she had a father. the worst part is i have a daughter with my wife and she have not just the mother but the father, what i did. i live with that every day. >> born in pakistan but raised in wyoming he told us his

i wrote who tried to kill benazir bhutto and i've made the case that beta masoud the previous head of the pakistani afghan -- taliban. she immediately wrote about it. she sent back a text to me and i sent it to her that night. she wrote back and said this is not beta masoud. she said something to the effect and i'm paraphrasing that these are the radical elements within the pakistani establishment. that means bureaucracy as well but by and larg it prefers to establishment at intelligence and the military. .. >> >> then i would ask him. something that people often say. but who uses it as long for intelligence? so i said to him i did not understand. [inaudible] we were sitting at a long dinner table in by then he almost jumped in the seats. but then what he said to me was anything that you want to. and he knew. in the same building of is told he went to see her. but they did not have the personnel. from all of the handlers. these are the circles to understand. but i have an honor to have many of these as my students maybe i should say most but 99 percent they're convinced because very a

attackers with sub-machine-guns like killed sadat, or hand grenade and sub-machine attack like killed bhutto. these are the types of attacks that are used by terror cells, watching this minute by minute. this story is in the manila times today. so they have to tighten it up. >> the president says he has confidence in them, but how angry do you think he must really be? his family is there. this guy got right to the entrance, the bottom of the steps where you go up to the living quarters of the residence at the white house. >> right, reverend l.al. he's a leader, he's backing his people. he knows what the secret service has been through. they've had their people shot protecting president reagan. they've been hurt. killed in front of the blair house with harry truman, the white house uniform division. so they're very brave. he's backing them up. he needs to do that. but the mistakes need to stop. the director needs to take a hit on the hill tomorrow, take responsibility, it was on her watch with the fence jumper, and let's institute plans to get this fixed. >> this is not just a little mistakes

and even though they were immediately followed by the assassination of benazir bhutto, and the secondievement was the deepening of relations with china. there were several dozen working groups established that hadn't previously existed, that joint meetings of all kinds of american and chinese officials, that were essentially is the compass but on that and second of the treasury paulson who was very interested also in deepening the relationships with china. and that the close of his tenure, at the close of the second bush administration, he almost certainly would have been secretary of state had condoleezza rice, condoleezza rice apparently according to her memoirs offer to resign in his favor and was told by the white house that the bush administration wouldn't do it. so she remained until the end of the administration. so he has retired. he does consulting work and he teaches one day a week at yale. i don't think his career is over. it's hard to say, but it does example by the influence, a relatively clear-sighted diplomat can have on a variety of events. and the book which, as was s

i wrote who tried to kill benazir bhutto and i've made the case that beta masoud the previous head of the pakistani afghan -- taliban. she immediately wrote about it. she sent back a text to me and i sent it to her that night. she wrote back and said this is not beta masoud. she said something to the effect and i'm paraphrasing that these are the radical elements within the pakistani establishment. that means bureaucracy as well but by and large it prefers to establishment at intelligence and the military. .. >> >> then i would ask him. something that people often say. but who uses it as long for intelligence? so i said to him i did not understand. [inaudible] we were sitting at a long dinner table in by then he almost jumped in the seats. but then what he said to me was anything that you want to. and he knew. in the same building of is told he went to see her. but they did not have the personnel. from all of the handlers. these are the circles to understand. but i have an honor to have many of these as my students maybe i should say most but 99 percent they're convinced because very