we have been through the where i thinker with bi -- wringer with clinton, we've been through it witht back in the '80s, that was then and his clear imploded. how much have we changed? >> well, i don't know. i mean, certainly there are still moralistic impulses in this country. i wouldn't want to say that they're gone, but it was 23 years ago now. it was 1987, and, you know, we've had some time to adjust and we've had a precedent on top of these things for 23 years. >> there are those who would suggest, though, let's look at another country, as this article does, denmark, where politicians and their personal lives are never trodden upon during political elections. and people say over there, you know, it's really nobody's business, nobody cares because it's nothing about the way they're going to govern. do you think we're moving toward that model? >> i think we're getting closer and europe is slighti inly more immune than we are to all this stuff. >> how about mickey haley, though? the allegations are infidelity and how is she doing? >> she seems to be doing just fine. she trounced her