bias, thef implicit idea that everybody is subject to bias because it is in the water in american culture. tohas enabled police recognize that is a problem that everybody has but that they have to deal with it more seriously because they arrest people. departments have started addressing the issue of implicit bias through stronger policies, through training that make officers aware of some of the issues that we have talked about. is there isroblems no evidence-taste training that is out there that can say, you take this eight-hour course and no more bias. >> i don't think we can ever be there. -- this has to continue because of the social conditioning that helps to create that bias is continuing. it will never be let's figure it out and fix it and we are done. shows that a one-off only does so much. you want to plant ac the end allow that seed to grow. -- a seed and allow that to grow. one of the things we have been doing at the university of maryland is we develop a virtual reality simulation program for police officer this vision making. to be able to train in a safe environment. part o

is their bias? we teach them about something we call confirmation bias which is what they bring to what they're reading so that they can have a bit c of distance. >> host: when it comes to bias how do you teach students to flesh that out? >> guest: we have lesson on bias, and we teach them what other signs in terms of the language, the images, is the information presented in a dispassionate neutral tone, or is it intended to provoke or persuade or insight? are there multiple points of view provided? where giving them the tools to make those assessments and to understand that everything isn't necessarily driven by bias but that they should lookth for in everything they are doing. >> host: when you talk to the students are you focusing on mainline publications, how much of that first online publications, opinionon sources? do teach those skills as first apply to all those front? >> guest: we have a foundation lesson with a person reduce we teach the difference between news, opinion, advertising, enter

is there bias? we talk about confirmation bias, which is what they bring to what they are reading so they can have distance. host: when it comes to bias, how do you teach students to flesh that out? guest: we have a lesson on bias themchnology and we teach -- what are the signs in terms of the language, images, is the information presented in a dispassionate neutral tone? or is it intended to provoke or insight --incite? are there multiple points of view provided? we give them the tools to make those assessments. and to understand that everything is not driven by bias , but they should look forward to everything they are viewing. tot: when you are talking the students, are you focusing on mainline publications? how much that versus online publications, opinion sources? do you teach skills? foundational --. difference between news, opinion, propaganda based on its primary purpose. we want them to make those distinctions. we do not steer them to any particular source, platform, nor do we do them away.

every new academy recruit receives training in implicit bias. harassment prevention training, 6500 city employees are required by law to take that training but we currently have trained 14,000. and of course, as you see the mayor's executive directive extends that training to all 30,000 city employees. cross cultural communications a new training unit. we believe some of the problems we encounter that lead to equal employment opportunity complaints relate to people coming from different cultural backgrounds and challenges in communicating. so, a new unit we use to intervene in departments and help in workplaces where there seems to be difficulties related to that area. and anti-bullying module s.i.u. requested and jointly developed over the last several years, available for cases could benefit from understanding more about bullying. so, we -- we hope that the training that we are providing is not just providing information but in fact, can lead us to changing culture, but it must also include enforcement. so i'll talk about the equal employment

you brought up earlier, bias training. has the commission implemented any implicit bias training policies? you don't mind, i would like to take notes? >> that's a great question. currently we are redoing the bias dgo so it's a department general order. sort of the rule book for the police officers to follow. what to do in certain situations and we are currently redoing the bias d.g.o., which i think was done in the '90s and it hasn't been revised since then. we're currently working on that. part of that is having a working group where we have people from the community where we can implement in it the d.g.o. or the rule book so we can acknowledge the bias that happens and what to do in those situations. hopefully, we'll have it within the next few months. there's a long process in terms of getting it drafted and having people review it and ultimately the commission will vote on it to i am not it. that wilimplement it.>> i want . we offer an eight-house bias training for every police officer. in addition to that, the departm

. >> the bias that we saw on that starbucks tape is not isolated to coffee houses.ck and brown people all across the country experience this type of inequality. this is why people call the police on us more quickly. all of these things are part of the kind of implicit biases that people have against black and brown bodies that see them as more dangerous, more criminal, less moral, and more likely to commit a crime. >> reporter: after that starbucks incident, the company mandated anti-bias training for their 170,000 employees. you were part of the training after starbucks. what were your recommendations? >> we co-created the curriculum for starbucks when they shut down the stores on may 29th. what we built into training was a set of practices that would help people. we were trying to find the stop, drop, and roll with respect to racial anxiety. how do you stop and pause and really kind of ask yourself a series of questions that would help you understand how bias is operating. >> reporter: johnson says we're all carrying bias. >> we're not as color blind as we purport

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that is a person i love in my family who i don't want to lose because of my bias. to dig deepere within ourselves. as kevin was saying and jeff has done at the foundation, to internalize the historic white supremacy and the bias that we all are implicated in. mary: so, let me throw a word on the table. nike. they placed an ad. was just in san francisco and threw open the brakes of the hotel room and there is a gigantic ad in union square with colin kaepernick's face on it. they were awarded in their stock performance, in terms of people saying i have no need for new tennis shoes, but today, i will go buy a pair of nike's because i like what they did and what they stood for. the conference -- conversation among ceos is somewhat stilted. a lot of people felt they could do the same thing. are they in a unique position or will people see a company taking a social justice stand and understand maybe there is a reward? darren: you can be assured that campaign was well tested. [laughter] darren: they did not with up one day and say we want to be about racial justice. they

so it's unsurprising that their platforms operate with the same bias thought sparrows could each year the independent conservative think tank the bow group alone for london she is. now tracking those two astronauts who came back to earth a bit of a bummer yesterday the no doubt thanking their lucky stars right now after successfully escaping that failed launch of this soyuz spacecraft thursday the booster rocket malfunction just minutes into their flight caused them to abort and return to earth after a dramatic rescue of medical tests there was relief from friends and family as they were welcome back to baikonur. i am. the leader of the star city try to censor to moscow ati's mission oceanus that. starseed to us version to get a look in russian is where russian cosmonaut alex see of cine has been training for months and months preparing for his second mission to the international space station now he and another crew member and merrick an astronaut and meek hague right now here are to there a lot of key escape as they call it the emergency landing in kazakhstan they will be checked he

democrats alike woulden like bias fbi agents.ve thought it would have taken peter to find a law enforcement agent they liked. all of the times they are critical of law enforcement and defend one of the most bias agents in public service. that's where we are and why i can't wait to be gone. >> thank you so much. thank you for your service as well. >> yes, ma'am. >>> meanwhile, it's deadline day for canada and a new nafta agreement tonight with the united states. where do we stand with one of our biggest trading partners. peter is next. peter is next. we'll beeeee see a little blood when you brush or floss? you may have gum disease and could be on a journey to much worse. try parodontax toothpaste. it's three times more effective at removing plaque, the main cause of bleeding gums. leave bleeding gums behind with parodontax toothpaste. leave bleeding gums behind comcast business built the nation's largest gig-speed network. then went beyond. beyond chasing down network problems. to knowing when and where there's an issue. beyond ne

yes, endorsing his performance, his demeanor, and what i would argue is maybe most important, his bias. let me say first that i don't believe any democrat should defend the way in which christine blasey ford's allegations were brought to light. i don't know who leaked the contents of that letter. i think it's fair to guess it was somebody that didn't want brett kavanaugh confirmed. now dr. ford should have controlled her story or at least the ranking member of the committee to whom she entrusted it should have controlled that story. the timing of its release, listen, it just sucked. something that explosive, that serious, it shouldn't be shoved into debate at the very last minute. but here's the thing. the way in which the substance is revealed does not change the substance. yet, it may give you reason to be angry about the way in which it was made known. it may make you suspicious of the motivations of the person who did it. but the method doesn't alter the substance. the substance is dr. ford's very credible account of a sexual assault carried out against her by somebody who wants to

but the racism, the bias is the same. and it's those schools and cohorts that are working hard to combat that and reaching out to the district offices for support. >> thank you. also, i was going to mention that i know in our personnel committee updates, the recruitment of black educators is a top priority for the h.r. department. and one of the updates they presented a study from johns hopkins and i'm trying to find it here. but if you google it, it's easy to find. that basically says if you have one black teacher before you hit the 3rd grade, your chance to graduate from high school increases exponentially. so they brought that research to us on recruiting african-american teachers for the early grades. it's something the district wants to see more of. hopefully, we can connect the aapac to see what is happening around those efforts. if there are no other questions, thank you. [applause] so we have no appointments to advisory committees by board members. section c. consent calendar. bless you. can i have a motion on the

i don't think it is a conservative bias, liberal bias, i think it is an establishment bias. think of how you do coverage. what is the first thing writers write about or talk about on tv? who has the most money. i would say that if you race all this money from the people you are legislating, you have reported that people who are the most corrupt. i'm not impressed if you took the most amount of money from northrop grumman. i'm not impressed if you took the most amount of money from apple or any of these companies. that to me says you are less trustworthy, not more trustworthy. what does every media outlet in this country do? they rewarded by giving it coverage. they say jeb bush is leading. how did that turn out for you guys? hillary clinton is leading -- she raised more money. that's so good. it ain't good. the whole country hates it. 93% of americans believe politicians represent donors and not their voters. yet here we are in a town that celebrates it, and it is disgusting. so you reward who has the most money and who is the most corrupt in that sense. you reward establish

we think about unconscious bias. some of the bias seems pretty unconscious to me. anything about the woman it in starbucks: police on a black -- on aarbucks calling police black man. if we build a structure where there is literally no accountability, training doesn't matter if they know there is no likelihood of being held accountable. mary: that is an interesting thing you write in the book. "on the other side of freedom," out just last month. you write about the big, deep hard stuff we stay awake with in the middle of the night. some of it is just changing the rules. policeon't want to see using lethal force unnecessarily, then change the contract for the police force so there is accountability. deray: i believe in those things. one of the things i am more mindful of, how do we share the cognitive burden? i am in so many rooms where i am preaching this message, and people are unmoved. i was on a panel with an officer. she is like deray, it is a hard world, tell me please should never kill anybody. i said, tell me when it is ok for please to kill your child. if yo

. >>> accusations of a hiring bias at amazon, the offender, artificial intelligence. we talk live about in -- artificial intelligence with an expert. >>> the first fully autonomous indoor farm, a look inside of what could be the future of farming. four -- california's public schools rank 44th in the nation. 44th. i'm marshall tuck, i'm a public-school parent, and i know we can do better. in the public schools i led, we got more funding into our classrooms, supported our teachers, and we raised graduation rates by 60%. that's why president obama's education secretary endorses me. we've done it before. now, let's do it for every public-school student in california. i'm marshall tuck. i'm running for state superintendent. amazon is learning a tough lesson about artificial intelligence. the company has now abandoned and artificial intelligence recruiting tool after they fell me program is biased against women. ryan, this new recruiting engine was supposed to identify candidates that amazon might hire, but it appears that this program chose far more men. >> reporter: it's

the bia had found that this was a particular social group, based on its finding in an earlier case, that guatemalan women who could not leave their marriages was a particular social group. in other cases, the government had conceded that this was indeed a particular social group. i have said the resolve the eternal general reached overruling those cases was obviously right. it might be thought that the opposite is obvious. women in el salvador who cannot leave their domestic relationships when they had children in common, seems a well defined group. it defines a particular set of people. this group exists in society, so in that sense, it is social, it is particular, social, and a group. so why is it not a particular social group? the answer i think starts off with law and goes on to philosophy. indeed, to an ancient and unsolved problem in philosophy. luckily, this problem can be

the issue is not about bias, and this is where i think reporters get it wrong. this is about truth. it is not biased to say that the republican party has been against protections are -- for pre-existing conditions. that is the truth. it is not biased to criticize the senate candidate in missouri or like dana rohrabacher, using his child and a political ad, to suggest that he is in favor of protecting pre-existing condition protections, which he -- when he is suing the government to eliminate pre-existing condition protection. that is not biased. that is the truth. i think part of the problem is journalists in many respects have confused the words bias and truth and i would stand by any of the advertisements we have done is being truthful. pac's are held to a higher standard than candidates because our ads can be taken down on television. a candidate cannot. i think it's an important difference to make in terms of the higher standard we have. >> ken asked you about 2020 and what the prospective democratic nominee might think about outside groups like yours. the reality is is going to

>> i'm cognizant of some studies associated with that implicit bias sentencing and other matters and i think as a judge for the last seven years, i am a judge in the county that includes cleveland ohio, so it is an urban setting with many urban settings and i see many defendants and sentenced many defendants and preside over trials of many and i can assure you i have always been ensuring a fair process, hearing and listening to everyone involved in the process and trading them all with dignity and respect. in terms of sentencing, it's important to have cognizance of the issue you discussed from implicit bias and other things that he is associated with. every time i go into a sentencing i go through the information associated to read all of the information on the records. i attempted in every situation to apply certain factors. i hear from victims, the defendant, defense counsel, everyone and it's only after i'd heard from everyone that i make my decision on sentencing and i explain mexplained my position e for consistency because it's very important in sentencing and that is what i'v

but i want to show you where some of you have bias. i've had demonstraters in my office for two weeks now. both for kavanaugh and against kavanaugh. and one time the people that were for kavanaugh wanted to be interviewed. and they said, we only -- we're only interested in interviewing people against kavanaugh. now, that's a bias that none of you should be proud of. reporter: dr. ford's legal team has sent a letter to the f.b.i. and they're characterizing this investigation as a stain on the process on the f.b.i. and on our american ideal of justice. what's your response to that conversation? mr. grassley: let the f.b.i. do what the f.b.i.'s hired to do and keep political interference out of it. and my making a call to the f.b.i. that you ought to do something is political interference. i made no-call to the f.b.i. since this whole process started a week ago. and i'm not going to. i never had any conversation with anybody in the white house because i got confidence in the f.b.i. they go where the facts lead them. >> i think it's also i

-- it's not bias. it's negative. and negative is negative, right? if i'm covering a hurricane, it's also negative. it's just factually negative. that is not the same thing as bias. even if it is bias, you are an elected official. you're going to have to get a thicker skin when it comes to the media. the media is not backing down. my colleagues from cnn are out there right now broadcasting a show from the sidewalk outside of their headquarters because of a bomb threat, stephanie. >> that's commitment. if you don't want to be called a liar every day, here's a suggestion. stop lying. ali velshi, thank you for giving me the opportunity to join you for this hour in our special coverage. >> always my pleasure, friend. >> ali, please, get yourself inside. he's been throughout for hours on this story. why? because he's committed to coverage. we'll be right back here tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. thank you for watching. i hand you off to my dear friend and colleague nicolle wallace. "deadline white house" starts right

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i think that's being confused with bias. there are issues with algorithms, and sometimes my fellow programmers, sometimes we don't realize the actual privilege we have and sometimes how that turns up into a code to write. i don't think i've been conscious of that. maybe i solved the problem by stopping coding in 2000. right now we need to see more enforcement of terms of service. >> do you think the tech companies should be shelf policing or do you think that washington or state government should be getting more involved in terms of regulation? >> i think it needs to be a combination. but given the toxicity of the current political environment, i have a feeling washington may only make it worse. as odd of it sounds, a lot of new work is beginning to happen in sacramento. i have a lot of confidence in some of the -- some of what might happen there. >> can you tell us about that? >> right now there's folks in sacramento who are looking at things like net neutrality who are beginning to think about how should platforms enforce

they had bias against them in the workplace and then working class but but then reading sarah'ss book and working on my own the story is now very much like single mothers as the bias trying to get jobs. . >> tell the story of the pilot. . >> there is a lawsuit the aclu launched on behalf of the female pilots who cannot pump the milk on the job. many were conservative politically and with the male-dominated as part of this seaction to author on the job and was traumatized in so much pain that she wanted to give her children breastmilk out of 100 stories that i heard of the earning power. >> women play a big role so tell us about your background and the women in your book. >> growing up in rural kansas on a wheat farm. and with that cultural and economic experience and then they end up on t a stage like thisis that just by default i counter the stereotypes and that has to do with gender and then on the way to rule america maybe all conservative white men but a bunch of women or her gross - - progressive but i was raised to have a kind and present father. and with single mothers who are

congressmen would have you believe for a prime example of just how embedded into our society the bias towards men is one should look no further than amazon's new artificial intelligence recruiting tool hailed as a possible new breakthrough in sorting through resumes the program had to ultimately be scrapped because the recruiting engine. they strong bias towards men and was against women yes the ai we designed to provide us an unbiased search for the best candidate out there proved to be just as flawed as its very human desires here's our tea barrackers natasha sweet with the story. irene process can be painful for the employer and job seekers alike so it's not far fetched that a big company that like amazon would experiment with artificial intelligence as part of their hiring process but what it didn't expect was for the ai to be biased against women the program was exactly that the computer program a built since twenty fourteen reviewed resumes from the past ten years while what makers of the program didn't realize is that most of those resumes were from men so amazon system taught

the racial the geographic bias of cost cost issues they'll get their lawyers just all that it can go on not you know what he's going to do upon. they began advocating across the country and quickly found that many people thought all victims wanted the death penalty. they say that the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say he's not quite been through this and this isn't the way. if you lose child porn he dies. and. so you have to you have to learn to live with this hole in your heart. either we can continue to do well on it and john of well up the misery and sustain that misery that. that we incurred because of what was going on and are we can we can try and force things to change to the extent we can they countered their grief by sharing their story and providing testimony that would influence death penalty legislation. losing a loved one to murder it's a tragedy on imaginable proportions this all happened to her testimony helped marylan

let's bring in harmeed dillon the attorney suing google over anti-conservative bias. to see you so do you believe google's statement there >> well google has a double stand and, liz. they punish and hound and fire and then prosecute conservatives for expressing their political views through contributions, or their views in the workplace, yet they reward and promote this type of extremely hateful profane commentary and then at the same time they also try to tell capitol hill no worries guys we're very fair to both conservatives and liberals we're a neutral company and you won't see any bias. any adult knows that's not true why people are so hateful who work there and hate people who are conservative that cops out in their products as well and it does. >> liz: it moves just beyond idiosyncratic workers because just a couple of weeks ago, the wall street journal reported that google workers were debating ways to manipulate search results to go after and stop president trump's immigration travel ban against terror hotspots, in google search results. >> of course and we kn

that's a bias that none of you should be tolerant of. liz: msnbc *, dzhokhar borrow agrees the media has been biased against judge kavanaugh. >> the media cover has been so biased. there has been a presumption from the beginning that every single allegation against the judge is true. if somebody said before the allegations -- liz: your reaction? >> dzhokhar borrow has been a critic of almost everything the president has done, and he can even see this is outrageous. as far as the protesters are concerned. they shout down these senators. i am proud and happy for my friend brett kavanaugh. but i'm worried these simple questions of democracy like confirmation votes are coupled with this huge political outpouring which i'm okay with them being calm and peaceful. but i just hope things day calm. >> it's not about hope and change or the shining city on the hill. or about policies. this is what happens when democrats like barack obama and hillary clinton allow identity politics to swamp their policies. if this is the way we are going with the de

the issue is not about bias, and this is where i think reporters get it wrong. about truth. it is not biased to say that the republican party has been against protections are pre-existing conditions. that is the truth. it is not biased to criticize the senate candidate in missouri like dana rohrabacher, using his child and a political ad, to suggest that he is in favor of protecting pre-existing condition protections, which he is suing the government to pre-existing condition protection. that is not biased. that is the truth. of the stand by any advertisements we have done as being truthful, and, frankly, pac's are held to a higher standard than candidates because our ads can be taken down on television. a candidate cannot. >> ken asked you about 2020 and what the prospective democratic nominee might think about outside groups like yours. the reality is is going to take a while before we know who that democratic nominee is. it looks like there are at least a dozen serious democrats going now to campaign desk going to mount a campaign, if not more. while all that will be liti

we think about unconscious bias. some of the bias seems pretty conscious to me. when you think about the woman in starbucks calling the police on the two black men, that seemed conscious. i don't know how many training sessions she goes to to undo that, you know. so i'm not convinced by some of those things. i think i'm doubling down on the, if we have a structure where there is literally no accountability, training doesn't matter. that stuff actually doesn't matter, if they know that there is no likelihood of them being held accountable. >> that's an interesting thing you write about in the book. which if you haven't seen it, just out last month, on the other side of freedom. you write about that some of the stuff you're wrestling with is like the big deep hard stuff that we stay awake with in the middle of night. and some of it is like just changing the rules. just changing, you know, if we don't want to see police using lethal force unnecessarily, then make, you know, change the contract for the police force so there is accountability for that. >> yes -- >> th

total bias?tter quickly responded to the president in a statement that reads in part, many prominent accounts have seen follower counts drop, but the result is higher confidence that the followers they have are real engaged people. what do you guys make of this, susan? do you think he's jealous that kim kardashian has 4 million more followers than him now? >> you know, i don't want to lose to kim k ignition really, but i would have to say if you looked at the twitter move this week the price is actually telling you investors like what they see, so they have a lot of fake accounts and yes they may have lost users but they're making more money now and twitter in fact was up double-digits yesterday that was astounding. anybody? hello? >> yeah, i have a couple thoughts. one, what does president trump have against blimps? >> [laughter] >> blimps are great. i think they're a good thing and two he should be kissing the ground that twitter walks on. twitter is responsible for so much of his popularity. i

on the other hand, he was bias, there's no doubt in my mind.important position, and this man is qualified. and to put him through this type of a mess just because they are unhappy that donald trump had the right to appoint him is just plain

there is some natural bias that gets introduced when you have such a homogenous group of people.mily: you did get interest -- , who has gurley invested in uber, and has his own assistant to thank. she became addicted to stitch fix. katrina: amy is his assistant, and many people in the benchmark office love stitch fix. was like ious and have to understand what this company is doing. we weren't actively looking for money at the time, it was clear he would add a lot of fire you. takes helped the company changes in the way we operate, and we have been lucky to work with him. emily: you and your cofounder party ways. katrina: my cofounder and i parted ways about a year and a fortunately in the summer of 2012. i was able to recruit the coo of walmart.com. he is still on our team and still coo. there has been a lot of continuity in the leadership of the team. emily: was it hard breaking up with your cofounder? katrina: absolutely. it is some of the hardest stuff founders go through. you see the world through two different lenses, and they don't meet. it was really hard. being able to ha

bob: we have the same bias.ntil we get to levels that represent better valuation for, you know, medium term adjusts returns. jonathan: what about you, sean, the liquidity, how much of a critical element is that right now? sean: it's a critical element, jon. it's one of the factors that we spend time analyzing. two perspectives. one, your the colleagues on the show mentioned issuance. and it's been done 35% on the corporate side as well as on the sovereign side this year. fund flows are tracking about negative $2.5 billion give or take yesterday's number and this in turn feeds to liquidity environment in our market. data, have somewhat one that will stay in quality in places like the middle east where they should be benefiting from higher oil prices. also looking for some opportunities in our markets whether it's looking at turkish argentina. jonathan: bob miller alongside victoria fernandez and sean newman. coming up on the program -- a market check on the 10's have been. there it is. there is your moves on 10 e

but i want to show you where some of you have bias.had demonstrators in my office for two weeks now, both for kavanaugh and against kavanaugh. and one time the people that were for kavanaugh wanted to be interviewed. and they said we only, we are only interested in interviewing people against kavanaugh. now is that, that is a bias that none of you should be proud of. reporter: chairman grassley, dr. ford's legal team has sent a letter to the fbi and they're characterizing this investigation as a stain on the process on the fbi and on our american ideal of justice. what is your response to that characterization? >> i will give you, let the fbi do what the fbi is hired to do and keep political interference out of it and my, making a call to the fbi that you ought to do something is political interference. i made no call to the fbi since this whole process started a week ago. and i'm not going to. i never had any conversation with anybody in the white house because i got confidence in the fbi. they go where the facts lead them. reporter:

at this point there are no ties to collusion, but what we have seen is abundant bias at the fbi.the people who are at the home of the investigation and a fisa warrant. so i applied republicans were trying to get to the bottom of it. >> harris: brian, you and lisa are hitting on the point of trust with the american people in the top law enforcement agency in the land. my question is if you are rod rosenstein and you know that any of this is cast out on the fbi having that bias, a sliver of people at the fbi, not the total agency, one into that to make sense to get on the record and say what did or did not happen? i want to help my brothers and sisters out at the fbi with reputation, because i said that and i was kidding. or did not say that and everybody thinks i said it. whatever. and i love "the wall street journal," we are all of family here. but why talk to a piece of the media when you can talk to the whole of lawmakers on the hill? >> brian: i do not understand why he did this. he is in the situation where his credibility is so damaged and he knows it that he is not sure wha