suppress another wave of devastation well let's talk about this 2nd wave with dr emmanuel couple bianco he's director for health and care international federation of red cross and red crescent societies welcome to d.w. so concentrating on v your opinion experience this pandemic initially took us by surprise then we got a grip now we are suffering best 2nd wave of infection why do you think that is. i think we are suffering a little bit from what was then. the bring it during the summer there was a relaxed they should all but be the people that you know they didn't want it to to go back to normal when it's a question it's not normal and also we had some prayers in a number of countries around the 5th them or i think tracing and isolation and quarantine and the 2 element. combined resulted in an increase in the number of cases of the slow in the month of august and september bodies reactivating a number of countries now where exponential growth alright so with and with thing about growth pretty much across the whole of europe and you have called on governments to act with what you called speed