they start with how the bible came to be the bible, origins of the hebrew text of a torah scroll withonderful color from the of original manuscripts and those of us used to seeing the christian bible tells manuscript it's fascinating to see another version of the bible and a similar format. there's discussion about biblical translation and it's fascinating. this is if we can pause for a while this account is wonderful. it's a polyglot version meaning many languages and of course i lose the exact part i want. it includes the he broods latin translation of the hebrew that it includes aramaic and the latin version of aramaic so it is back-and-forth to inflation. plus arabic and a latin translation of the arabic. very interesting to see how that part of the bible can to be. there are discussions of storytelling in the bible. biblical law, biblical poetry and discussion of the books of profits, the wisdom literature, the different methods of bible study and the jewish tradition including planes since reading, allegorical reading, inquiry or interpreter of reading and mystical reading. they

. >> don't tell me about the bible, man. we wrote the bible. let me teach you. you don't know anything about the bible, okay? >> all right. >> friend? all right? >> so you're saying the bible gives you the right to have sex with girls? >> i have the right to have sex with my wife. is there any problem with that? >> no, absolutely no problem with your wife. >> like people at the vatican and everything. >> let's not go there, sir. >> let's go there, let's go there. come on, now. come on. you know there are a bunch of -- over there. >> i think people would find that language repugnant. i would ask you not to use it anymore. let's try and stick to the issues here if we possibly can. just for the record, they're saying for the record that you have possibly either promulgated or had sex with young girls at your particular facility. is that true or not? >> that is false. >> okay. >> all right? >> you told the associated press that you are not guilty but then you went on to say that according to you, the age of consent is puberty. puberty. what do you mean by that? >> i

in the one room they're having bible study.ng an affair and maybe invoking god in a different sort of context. i mean, it's so strange and doesn't it delegitimize the people who really do value the bible and follow its teachings? >> well, some people are going to be making claims that the congressmen who are there are hypocritical. others are going to say, well, these fallen men all gathered together at the c street house in order to get their lives back on track. but if this pickering allegation is true, it sort of changes the dynamic, doesn't it? because before we had congressmen who were talking about their problems in the house and talking about religion. now we have an allegation that the actual deed was taking place upstairs, and that changes it, doesn't it? >> it would certainly change the conversation, but in the overall course of this conversation, got to ask you, manuel, have we heard from the religious leadership inside the family? i mean, are they now trying to defend themselves. it's one thing having people standin

>> there is this very curious word in the bible, in the hebrew version of the bible, the hebrew bibleor what christians would call the old testament. elohim. it literally is the plural of the generic noun for gods. elohim is at this point becoming a proper noun. and so i would say it's not only kind of god with a capital g, if this theory is right, but kind of there's a notion called the godhead. it comes out of hinduism, among other places, where the idea is that all the gods are manifestations of a single underlying divine unity. and it may be that that notion of the godhead is being hinted at in this particular language of god, this particular language for talking about god that's emphasized after the exile. >> moyers: how do you relate that to the fact that as you s again and again in here, and as all of us know, the three great faiths all embraced the slaughter of infidels? >> right. they do. in the koran, you can find on one page muhammad or god speaking through muhammad is advising muslims to greet unbelievers by saying, "you've got your religion. we've got ours." on another pa

i'm talking about the oldest- known bible in the world. was written 1600 years ago and contains the oldest complete copy of the new testament. it was discovered in an egyptian monastery, 160 years ago. but now, thanks to an international collaboration called the codex sinaiticus project. it is available with anyone with access to the internet around the world. go to this website and i will have a link on my blog gofish@wusa9.com and here you can learn more about the bible. right here you can learn more habit the project but the real gem is here on see the manuscript. click there and this is what will pop up and you can view in great detail every surviving page of this bible, all handwritten in greek. you can go through the passages. i just clicked on psalms and what it will do is you can zoom in and see the original text in greek. it will pull it up in a larger form over here and translates it down here for you. i'm not going to read it but you can go and check it out for yourself. the other neat thing the site does is in addition to trans

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you know, they did a lot of bible study there and you have to wonder what parts of the bible they wereeading. i mean, some parts they kept reading again and again, the part where so and so begat so and so and somebody else begat somebody else. you know, and all the lying with that they did in parts of the old testament. clearly, they seemed to keep going back to the racy parts and took that as some sort of example. >> obviously democrats sometimes have affairs, too, but on the republican side there seems to be that extra layer. these republicans campaigned on family values as if they had them and their opponents did not. >> they did. you know, obviously, the republicans have no sort of lock on the market of sin. democrats, sure, if they were all to be found out, it would balance out. but that is a crucial difference, because it does bring the whole hypocrisy question into play. and, you know, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. well, clearly, the republican lawmakers are not without sin. they keep throwing the stones. and their glass houses keep getting shattered. >> as a p

this marked me forever, like the bible also. these are my two fingerprints, and perhaps i am a mixing of both, and all kinds of experiences i have had in different places, who convince me that i am a pagan-- eight pagan? i am a pagan. i am religious bud i am religious because i believe in the sun and the brain and the moon and the courses of nature. most of the histories of history , they don't have a happy end. they have a quite unhappy end. they are destroyed or betrayed or, but history herself does not and, it has no end. when history says goodbye, history is saying, see you late, see you late, see you soon. >> host: so, about 100 pages is devoted to the 20 a century. the bloody revolutionary 20 a century that marked of course, our century mainly. you talk a lot about the latin-american come a good deal about the lack american revolutionaries. you speak very highly and i made the list, who then in, not stalin, sabato, the great mexican revolutionary and pancho villa, another great rebel look particularly across the united sta

bismark to me forever, like the bible also. these are my two fingerprints, and perhaps i am a mixing of both and later all kinds of experiences i had in different places, who convince me that fight them a pagan, a pagan? a pagan. i am it taken. i am religious bet i am religious because i believe in the sun, the rain and the moon and the courses of nature. andy in history, because most of the histories of history-- don't have, they don't have a happy and. they have a quite unhappy end. they are destroyed or betrayed, but history herself has no end. when history says, goodbye, history is saying see you late, see you late, see you soon. >> host: so, what is-- about 100 pages is devoted to the 20 a century. the bloody revolutionary 20 a century that marked of course, that is our century mainly, he talked a lot about the let the american-- a good deal about the latin american revolutionaries. you speak very highly, i made the list, lyndon, not stalin, lyndon, hrsa pot of some of the great mexican revolutionary, punch of the yet, ano

. >> in addition to the controversy over this bible study group, which met in this c street house onapitol hill supposedly to study the bible and now we know at least three different people who did that were also engaged in extramarital affairs, which makes you wonder what sort of lessons they were really learning from the bible, but never mind all of that, there's the allegation that now ensign's parents paid, what, $96,000 to the family of this woman he was having an affair with. what's the latest on that money, whether there's an investigation or how is that sitting with people in nevada? >> well, i think that that was a real shocker to people, that mike and sharon ensign, his parents, mike ensign is a former casino executive, has a lot of money, paid to the family of doug and cindy hampton, $96,000. that disclosure was only made by john ensign's attorney after doug hampton said he got paid a severance, that his wife got paid a severance, excuse me, of well over $25,000. that triggers potential criminal penalties for nondisclosure. a complaint was immediately filed. it was within

this group, the cease treat group, the inmates who live in this townhouse on c-street, the c-street bible study group as they call it, and he referred to that during his press conference last month. let's listen to that. >> i'm part of a group called c-street, when i was in washington, believe it or not, it is a christian bible study. the folks asked -- members of congress hard questions that i think were very important and i have been working with them. >> current residents of 133 c street include congressman doyle, congressman stupak, representative wamp, senator ensign and senator couboun. president obama talked about paddling around with terrorists by sarah palin and others, and we are not going to get into that here. we are not going to throw around notions of adulterers, but what is going on there at c street? >> for sanford, a lot of these guys have been connected to -- for a long time going back to the revolution of '94 that was he was a member of. he was a member of the promise keepers. a lot of these guys have problems with statements and things they held on to in the past comin

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think you have to prepare them and tell them what's really out there in the world. >> reporter: a bible study group thinking about something parents have worried about from the beginning of time to texting today, their kids. i'm keith yaskin, fox news. >> to check out the company in that story and for more tips and advice, log on to myfoxdc.com. look under web links. >>> let's crank up the heat a little bit. >> that's right. ready for a party on saturday in the steam bath. 92 degrees i think we'll get to. a lot of other places will hit it too. big question is thorl activity -- thunderstorm activity. we're going to talk about that in detail in just a moment. tonight a sultry summer night but it's also storm free so that is very pleasant but it's not completely dry all across the region so we start with max hd trueview. you can see there's not much. we've had a cell in the baltimore area. we have a little bit of activity down 95 east of the fredricksburg area. this has weakened considerably south of culpeper we still have a little activity. everything move east at 15 miles an hour. this c

thates the teaching of the bible. stuart: how about -- what is it, mark 20, verses 1-16, a worker goes out, for an hour, earns one dina rirch. another guy goes out for the whole day and he gets the same thing. they say it's not fair. they go to the boss of the vineyard who says it is fair. it's my vineyard, i decide what's fair. that, sir, is in the bible. >> as is whatever you've done to the least of these you've done to me, which is what jesus said in matthew 25. stuart: i think he was referring to something different there from unionization, if i'm not mistaken. >> what? stuart: i think he was not referring to unionization, card check or redistribution. >> he was referring to how the least of these among us are taken care of, of treated. that's what he was referring to. and the old testament, stuart, is full of delivering people from poverty and delivering people from oppression. stuart: stewart, you know, i think we've broken new ground. i think this is the first time on a major news network that two people have g

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the bible says give and it will be given unto you. press down, good measure will run over heap into your bosom and i think every couple should have money set aside for charitable giving. the tithe was the amount in the old testament. new testament, i think that should be a foundation of somebody's giving, it shouldn't be accidentally if something is left over. it should be one of the fixed expenses that somebody has, our contributions to charity should come at the top of the list. the second thing that i think is important is to understand the principle of the law of use. all right rot child called -- lord rothchild called this the eighth wonders of the world. einstein called it the power of physical i can, as powerful as anything he knew of, and that is that money will multiply i cording to the interest rate being charged. i like what i call the rule of 72, that if you will take the amount of compound interest that your investments will garner, and you divide that in to 72, you will learn how many years it takes you to have your mone

everybody had to learn hebrew because it was the language of the bible. they wanted to create a jewish state based on their own national identity with hebrew as a language. ththe famous ambassador had his mentor. his name was [unintelligible] they all took hebrew names. >> when you talk about a religious state, the last time i had somebody tell me this the only a few went to the synagogue. >> they were from the labor zionist movement. they were all secular zionists and created the labor party which is what used to beat the powerful governing party. is now quickly fading. these were secular socialists. >> why are so many rules over there based on religion instead of secularism? >> that had to make a compromise with the jews that were religious. there was a religious jewish community there to begin with. part of the compromise was that they were going to let them set some of the social rules. now there are clashes over that. >> we started out talking about when the two of you met and got married. writing a book together, does that help or hurt a marriage? >

. >> i want you to swear on the bible that you walked on the moon. if you walked on the moon we are giving you an opportunity to swear on the bible that you walked on the moon. >> you are dealing with the wrong guy. talk to the administrator of nasa. (inaudible) >> you are going to be on the deck if you don't get out. >> anyway, aaron, tell us why you have changed your mind and now become a sceptic? >> sure. thanks for having me on geraldo. i really appreciate it. let me first clarify, i was paid by the state of ohio in 1999 to spend a year trying to prove we actually landed on the moon. i was a total believer -- >> you were paid with tax payer money from the state of ohio? >> from the state of ohio. >> go ahead tell us more. >> i took a year and i traveled across the country. folks i have posted on youtube called "did we go"? the challenges, geraldo, every where i went it was amazing blue rocks falling in antarctica, kneel armstrong silenced. i was the first to report you played the clip earlier all of the science data was missing. geraldo, for nasa

a piece published by a south carolina newspaper, he quotes the bible and asks voters to trust both him and god. sanford has had a contentious relationship with the legislature and cannot run for election. >>> a private funeral service for walter cronkite will be held in manhattan on thursday. his remains will be created and they will be buried in a family plot next to his late wife. the former mayor of kansas city and cronkite's first cousin say he was a dedicated journalist who cared about his country. >> it walter will be sorely missed because of what he represented to so many people around the world, and, certainly, he will be missed among those of us who have had the opportunity to spend a lot of private time with him. a real gentleman, a terrific person, in terms of conversation, and someone who cared deeply about this country. >> walter cronkite died friday at the age of 92. >>> an ohio boy has decided to help his family out by doing something very selfless. zach maguire recently held a yard sale to raise money to help his out-of-work father make ends meet. he sold off his own co

it's the bible of everybody's bible. >> you are too kind. i got the hardback here. here's the paperback. 582 sold last week, but do i bother to count? go ahead. >> caller: got a two-part question for you. the play in china, would it be better to take a u.s. company that has big earth moving equipment like caterpillar, that's going to be part of their infrastructure for industrialwise, or is it better to go to npd with a consumer base and look for places in china that have companies in china? >> i am very -- always reluctant to -- tell me, something, eric, are you from philadelphia originally? >> caller: south jersey. >> i had the accent pegged. >> caller: what were you going to say? >> i was going to say cherry hill. here's the way i want you to play it. actually, there's a lot of controversy this week about -- about -- about china and cat. a lot of people felt that cat wasn't significant in cat -- in china and that's why cat didn't do the numbers. cat's business is growing in china rather aggressively. rather than the china chain store that you mentioned, i really

>> there is the bible and the talking points memo. bill: the bible is way ahead. >> have you read the talking points twice? because i did. yeah, i mean, we have a situation here where i think the government has been -- we have an al quirky going on in our country. we have a takeover by business and special interest and they are running the government. >> it's interesting, is it not, under a liberal cloak, which is what global warming is, that the big heinous corporations that ralph nader and all the others on the left despise. they are the ones that are going to make the money. the folks, the people, the down trodden, we are going to pay. >> yeah. here is the thing, bill. you know all that bull crap from michael moore where, you can't get rich. meanwhile is he rich enough, you know, is he a slub. is he rich enough to fly across the country in a corporate plane. the progressive movement exposed themselves in the early part of the 20th century. they love corporations as long as they run them. it's a dictatorship. as long as they are run

she was always there with the bible teaching us, go to service all of the time, like four times a weeki am so glad we did that, because those values are very important. i don't know if i could have done as well without them. >> you still spend time with mom and dad? >> yes. >> you are not far. >> yes. >> what is that like? i am not so close to my mom. >> it's wonderful. in seasons of life you tend to appreciate who your parents are more what they have done for you. you almost start to retrack where you are in your life and all of the wonderful things they did for you you see them come forth and take fruition in your life. i am starting to see traits my father influenced on me and my mother. >> my friend cheech helped discover you guys. >> yes. >> he says as he gets older he looks at his father's face in the mirror. do you feel that? are you becoming like your dad? >> i am very much like my father in a lot of ways. >> tell us. >> he is very strong, he's a waror. he always taught us to be courageous and confident and believe in our ideals. no matter what, no star is too far to reach. we

>> there is the bible and the talking points memo.bill: the bible is way ahead. >> have you read the talking points twice? because i did. yeah, i mean, we have a situation here where i think the government has been -- we have an al quirky going on in our country. we have a takeover by business and special interest and they are running the government. >> it's interesting, is it not, under a liberal cloak, which is what global warming is, that the big heinous corporations that ralph nader and all the others on the left despise. they are the ones that are going to make the money. the folks, the people, the down trodden, we are going to pay. >> yeah. here is the thing, bill. you know all that bull crap from michael moore where, you can't get rich. meanwhile is he rich enough, you know, is he a slub. is he rich enough to fly across the country in a corporate plane. the progressive movement exposed themselves in the early part of the 20th century. they love corporations as long as they run them. it's a dictatorship. as long as they are runn

he wants to redeem himself by writing the bible verses on this website. so it was a lot of fun. >> okay. if there are no more questions, okay. we have a couple more questions >> could you describe when someone went to the site, what did they see? what were their choices? >> that is a great question. i think from the very beginning i got the idea from watching the news. i went right away and started researching. how could i put the technology and the website together. one thing i come across, it was cyber hunting website. anybody heard of cyber hunting? it is a business in texas where you could log on line with the real gun and shoot a deer, and they would cut it and pack it to you the next day. so much that this is interesting. this is exactly what i want. i contacted them. no labor going to give you the technology. in the beginning i've wanted to put significant. the more i worked on the project the more i start stripping information away from the interface. i did not want people to get the impression that this project is about iraq. the project was extr

he mentions it over 2,000 times in his bible. i also had a vocational struggle for me in coaching.through a lot of experiences in there that happened to me. i thought pretty much i was never going to get a chance to be a head coach. i was striving so hard for that and it pretty much passed me by. and then i had a health issue struggle, pat and i both have. so i share all those in the book, because that's what i can talk on. i'm the average joe. sean: and you go into sin, addiction, relationships. you're giving significant life lessons here. >> yeah. and it's the scholars that we picked that's doing it. not me. each one of them wrote a chapter. there's 11 scholars, reaped alcorn, to kevin, those are the guys that wrote what god has to say about those. they're scholars that spent their life studying was god has said about those principles. and so my life story is really one of the average joe climbing through life, and i lay that out and kind of weed that through in the introduction of the different chapters. sean: how do you feel about the political world? >> i've got to tell you th

the u.k., the surviving pages of the world's oldest bible has been brought together on line. they were hand printed in greek 1600 years ago. most of the pages are in britain. the rest are in germany, russia, and greece. i am shepard smith, this is "fox report" and it is time for the news. nothing is off the table when it comes to repairing the economy. that is the word from the president. president obama would not rule out the possibility of a second stimulus plan. we have more on that from our washington news room. >> the president does not like the idea but he will not rule it out because the unemployment rate is certain to top 10%. the president and his aides deny that this means the stimulus has failed. >> these are the same folks who say where are the jobs, they don't really have a recipe other than doing nothing for the economic circumstances that we are in. >> republicans say too much of this to ms. package was devoted to infrastructure improvements, money that is slow to get into the economy, too little for tax cuts which stimulates the economy faster. >> is that the

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17 were possessed by demons, even sent her oldest child was actually jezebel, a prostitute in the bible. she said she isolated her in a room for days, taking away the furniture, food, clothing and her ability to use the bathroom. eventually, the only belongings left or a few t-shirts, cds, and a playstation. banita jacks said she wanted to record children weak and powerless. with time, they adapted to having nothing, even food. she said one by one starting with the youngest, they just did not wait that during the 10-day period. she lived with the decomposing bodies for nearly seven months spread there were all wearing white t-shirts and the oldest was found dead with a knife nearby. autopsy results showed she had stabbed once your stomach. the other three were in another room laid out by size, strangled to death her. her court-appointed attorney encouraged to take an insanity defense but she refused. she faces 12 counts, including three counts of first-degree murder. >> also today, southwest airlines is inspecting nearly 200 of the 737's airplanes every hole ripped open in the middle of

they are roommates who live in this townhouse on c street, the c street bible study group as they call, it and he referred to that during his press conference last month. last his willen to that. >> as far as the group called c street, when i was in washington it was, believe it or not, a christian bible study, some folks who asked members of congress hard questions that i think were very, very important, and i have been working with them. >> current residents of 133 c street include pennsylvania congressman mike doyle, michigan congressman bart stupak, tennessee congressman zach wamp, and yes, nevada senator john ensign and oklahoma senator tom coburn. republicans did during the presidential campaign like to throw around guilt by association. president obama was talked about as having palled around with terrorists by sarah palin and others, and we're not going to get into that here. we're not going to be andy. we're not going to throw around notions of palling around with adulterers, but what is going on at 133 c street, andy barr. >> for sanford a lot of these guys he's been connecte

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for african-american intellectuals then and remains the bible for african-american intellectuals today. in 1905 he cofounded an organization called the niagra movement that set itself up to fight the more conservative or accommodationist policies of the great educator, booker t washington. in 1909 that was called the niagra movement. in 190 the niagra movement metaphor missed itself to into the naacp. we think of it all black organization today. it wasn't. that was year they dream, this vision he could liberate african-americans from racism if only he could publish the compendium of scientific knowledge as he put it. scientific knowledge about the negro, the negro in africa, or as it were the african in africa or african oar negro in the new world. in 1910 became editor of crisis magazine which was then and remains to this today the official original gan organ of naacp. in 1909 he was on fire. he wrote to all the great scholars and in rome and oxford and, some of his harvard professors. wrote to the great william james with whom dubois studied philosophy in emerson hall in yard yard. j

posey says he can't swear on a stack of bibles he's a citizen or not. rush limbaugh says god and barack obama, neither one has a birth certificate. what is this about in your party? >> i don't know. i think something we should get off. >> it's the un-americanization of a candidate. what does your battery do that? every time, they do it over and over again. >> look what the democrats did to george bush. i mean, he's a criminal. he should be investigated. he should be prosecuted. >> no, no, but this undocumented alien crap that did rush limbaugh is pushing that he's somehow undocumented. lou dobbs does it. he's not documented. why do you keep pushing that thing? >> you mean, why do some people in my party push it. >> rush limbaugh, you guys all think he's great, rush limbaugh. >> great on a number of things. >> nine house members pushing the story. >> every party has disagreements. >> does it have whack jobs? >> every party takes up issues that aren't the best issues and we can't be responsible for all of it the democrats have all of that. >> but they're

not only locally significant for the local community, but to the global community as well that the bible tells us there is 1 god, 1 faith and 1 baptism and we have more similarities, more places where we can come together as 1 than we have place of division. >> this isn't the first time the congregations have worked together. they held joint events honoring dr. martin luther king. >>> kind of a hot and muggy weekend. what can we expect tomorrow? >> looks like we saw a pretty decent weekend. a few showers scattered around the area. taking a look outside right now, we have relatively quiet conscience. no rain around baltimore. as you head skouth of d.c., there are a few pop-up showers and thunderstorms. a little rain and east of richmond there's pretty heavy thunderstorms over parts of kentucky and tennessee towards nashville. all that activity to the south of us. lower 80s and overnight tonight clear skies. 65 for your morning commute and we'll see nice conditions in the lower 80s with plenty of sunshine in the afternoon tomorrow. i'll tell you how long that will stick around in my 7-day

you would hear the bible mentioned constantly.s is not what we are used to in the united states. it is almost that there is no need for god or religion or justice in politics. there is supposed to be a separation of church and state over here. we cannot have the separation of state and morality though. songs like "dreamer" and the other is the same thing. tavis: i have good news and bad news. the bad news is that i am out of time for this show. the good news is that i think a five been on my producer, i might get prince to stick around for another 12 minutes. if you can tune in tomorrow night, we can finish our conversations -- it is never over, but we will continue it. you can get his songs at lotusflower.com. this fine artist that he referenced earlier in this conversation. >> yes. tavis: now we are talking. tomorrow is part 2 of the conversation with prince. she is on one of the three cds in this 3 cd package. that is our show for tonight. you can access our radio podcast on our website. i will see you next time on pbs. good ni

he said i can't swear on a stack of bibles whether he's a citizen or not. he's talking about the president of the united states. his spokesman says if he would show a birth certificate. people are losing faith in the american system because they don't believe this guy is a citizen. what is going on that so many americans doubt the obvious, that barack obama is a citizen to the point that you felt it necessary to co-sponsor this crazy proposal? >> first of all, chris, we'll get to the proposal in a minute. the proposal is not crazy. the proposal is just looking forward and i want to get to that, but wouldn't you like to put all this to rest? that's what this proposal is about. >> how does this put it to rest? >> this controversial -- let me first say this controversy is not new. there were questions about john mccain. had john mccain become president i remember then senator obama had to come out and say i don't think john mccain's eligibility to become president is an issue. he was able to put it to rest, but the fact is if john mccain had become president,