we use to call bibliical and it is now political. and intimidates the pastors and various groups are mailing groups and saying don't you preach on that. and it drives the gospel out of the political arena. >> has any church been shut down or arrested for something they said. >> in 60 years of this law. there is not one church that lost its tax exempt status. there is one church that lost the letter for a day and went on after. that no church that was shut down. this is what happens. if the irs contacts a church. the church will say we'll sorry and back up and the pastor is intimidated. if the church will lawyer up with the people who know the law, the irs will back down and say we'll close the case. it will string it out and run up legal fees. and the church on the right or left of the issues. one liberal church in pasadena lawyered up and the government backed down. >> how many pastors will participate october ninety-ninth. >> october 5th. it is the sixth year. i hope thousands. we encourage pastors to go to pulpit freedom.organd pa