if that is the goal of several of the groups that support this group, we give them a hecklers bidault over programs there were unable to convince this body to amend or shut down. perversely some members of congress may welcome this result. by passing the buck to the courts they can avoid the consequences of tough votes and controversial national security programs. congress should not abdicate its responsibility or grant such legislative power to unelected judges. in conclusion, there's no justification for this legislation. beyond being a necessary it is risky. members of congress to focus on the greater public good and look past the narrow interests of those who would use the courts to make policy. thank you. >> thank you. i now recognize for five minutes of mr. wiesner. >> thank you chairman nadler, chairman conyers and distinguished members of the subcommittee. i appreciate this opportunity to explain the acod a's interest in reforming the state's secrets privilege in issue of critical importance to all americans concerned about the unchecked abuse of power. i also want to commend