joe biden has not.his is a great number for him, as he considers this right now but how realistic is this in the , grand scheme of things? i think that is a question worth raising. john: the other thing if you are hillary clinton, and looking for a reason to feel good, looking to salvage something out of all this rubble, you look at this and you say maybe joe biden doesn't run, and as his number has gotten larger, biden decides not to run, she will claim most of those votes. those are not bernie sanders votes, if you look at all the polling we have analyzed so far. if you look at biden rising and sanders maybe hitting the ceiling, that gives you something to cling to amid all the gloom. after putting out her prescription drug plan and finally coming out against the keystone pipeline yesterday in iowa, hillary clinton found herself grappling with the issue that just won't go away. exhibit a, our colleague del wilber's scoop that the fbi has recovered work and personal e-mails from her private server. exh

democrats to tell joe biden.hat does joe biden need to hear. how much encouragement does he need? would it take to get joe biden to stop flirting with this and say yes, i'm in? >> it would take a lot. people would have to say we're really concerned hillary clinton's campaign is evaporating, something maybe in her testimony in front of benghazi committee blows up, something like that that makes it look like this is a firestorm. at the moment when you have is hillary clinton with a series of bad news events coming out and lower poll numbers each time. she's trying to change the die name -- dynamic. let's say something positive about my campaign. i don't think at the moment you'll have sort of everything the house is on fire conversations that biden would really need to hear before he gets in. >> here is an unidentified former advisor said. quote "he really likes her personally but there is an under current of resentment and an element of and biden is by no means the only one that felt this, why does she feel entitl

biden just two in south carolina. if biden gets in tomorrow, it is going to be a tough race.et alone october 13th before the democratic debate. lot of people wondering if he could actually pull this off if he decides to jump in. >>> coming up, much more on all of the 2016 drama, plus, new warnings over that refugee exodus, could isis operatives sneak into the u.s.? >>> and on the nfl's opening weekend, the big changes that could be coming to football to make the sport safer. >>> "this week" with george stephanopoulos brought to you by pacific life. for life insurance, annuities and investments, choose pacific life. the power to help you succeed. ments, choose pacific life. the power to help you succeed. daughter. for the little things. and the big milestones. and just like i'm there for her, pacific life is there to help protect me and my family so i can enjoy all life's moments. pacific life. helping families for over 145 years achieve long-term financial security with lifelong retirement income. talk to a financial advisor today to grow your future with confidence. so you'r

and including joe biden at 21%.sam stein, that's joe biden at 21% without having done a thing. i suppose it's two ways to look at it. he doesn't done anything about he's at 21%. the other thing to look at it is he's the vice president of the united states and he's only 21%. >> the third way to look at it is once he gets in the race and involved in politics and campaigning, you know, it's very reasonable to conclude his numbers might go down like hillary's have. you see comparisons of him and her against the gop field and he always does significantly better. i think because in part he hasn't been part of partisan politics. i think her numbers are -- i'm of the belief of the razor theory about hillary clinton, her numbers are dipping because of one basic thing, the only story that people are hearing about her has to do with her handling of her e-mails at the state department. and so as long as this is in the news, yes, there is an opening for joe biden. like you said, 21% is that a floor or ceiling? i'm not entirely s

joe biden has not. how realistic is this in the grand scheme of things to think that is a question worth raising? john: the other thing if your hillary clinton and looking for a reason to feel good, looking to salvage something out of all this trouble, you look at this and you say maybe joe biden doesn't run command as his number has gotten larger, biden decides not to run, she will claim most of the votes. those are not bernie sanders votes, if you look at all the polling we have analyzed so far. may belook at sanders getting the ceiling, that gives you something to cling to amid all the gloom. after putting out her prescription drug plan on coming out against the keystone pipeline yesterday in iowa, hillary clinton found herself grappling with the issue that won't go away. exhibit a, power colleague -- wilberleague deall uncovered private e-mails from her server could talk her into her claim that she turned over the e-mails to the state department after a routine record request, "the washington post"

joe biden with stephen colbert after this. ♪ mark: vice president biden's interview with stephen colbertt night was a perfect tv interview, not just because of the intensely personal topics they covered but because it felt real. even though we expect you have seen at least some parts of this by now, let's watch an unedited version which is how they are discussing with dealing with loss. vice president biden: my mom said as long as you are alive, you have an obligation to strive and you were not dead until you are seen the face of god. bebeen in me and my siblings -- life is -- no one owes you anything. you just have to get up and i feel like i was letting down beau. i let down my parents, my family. stephen: how? vice president biden: you just have to get up. think about the people that go through horrible things and they get up and put one foot after the other. the ability of people to absorb hurt and just get back up. most of them do it with an incredible sense of empathy. it is interesting -- the people i find who i am most drawn to our people who -- are people who have been hurt. yet

what about vice president biden.oining us for that, tom, a democratic analyst, angela, principal and c.e.o. at impact strategies, and brett, a political consultant with democracy partners. i have brought you all here the best reasons why or why not. we'll start with joe biden, if you were trying to convince him to get in, what would you tell him, or get out, what would you tell him. >> to get in i'd tell him he has a shot, it's early. he's an authentic guys, a straight talker that america seems to like noum. and has a great resume. 40 years in the senate. 6.5. incredible image, working as a diplomat. he's a strong candidate at this time. not getting into it. you need to do what is best for the family. he's a family man when it comes to it. that's probably where the decision will lie. >> angela? >> i would tell him that there are wings of the democratic party that don't have a candidate. joe biden appeals to white blue call or workers, there are fern american loyalists who superior president obama and forgot na secret

he's the one who just stays solid whether biden's in or biden's out. >> it's a great point. you know, one of the things that i try to do is stay abreast of all the policy analysis of what everybody is talking about. today i know wire going to talk about the trump tax plan later. when it comes to bernie sanders you actually hear very little of that. the only thing i consistently hear about bernie sanders are, you know, really pretty positive poll numbers. bernie sanders has articulated a very progressive and extremely progressive agenda when it comes to college affordable, income inequality, struggles of the middle class. i think it is a somewhat odd and unfortunate that we haven't done enough to highlight those differences. when you come to the policy agenda of a biden and clinton there's not that much space between them. there's a lot of space between them and bernie. >> let's listen to what hillary clinton said about why she thinks she would do a better job as president than bernie sanders. >> and i think it is significant that people that have worked with me in the congre

i know joe biden for 29 years. this is a very authentic guy going through a really researching decision. now, you know but our viewers should know i advise a super pac that's trying to elect hillary clinton so i'm going to be for hillary for the end but i'm still a human being and i love joe biden and he's a terrific guy. even the people who are for hillary need to give him the time and space to make the right decision. >> doug, what are republican insiders saying about that this morning? what are you guys hearing in this joe biden? >> well, let me say, first of all, john mentioned my old boss, eric cantor. when eric cantor lost a primary in june of last year, one of the first people to call the majority leader and wish him well and talk to him was joe biden. that's the kind of guy that joe biden is. he cares about people. he cares about people regardless of whether they're republicans for democrats and that shows. one of the things i heard from a lot of people last night e-mailing in between commercial breaks, the

biden may put his decision off.ohn: the thinking had then that the timetable was we must decide by early october because of that debate and because of the jefferson jackson in iowa, the florida democratic party convention at the end of the month. they are now thinking no, let's wait until november democratic -- possibly. we can still make the filing deadlines, we can see whether clinton starts to turn it around and we can wait until after her benghazi testimony and see how that affects her. and crucially, we give joe biden and his family another month to heal and get ready to take this on if they are going to take it on. mark: there is no way joe biden will be organizationally up to speed with hillary clinton whether he gets into day or a month and a half. all they need to do is make a filing deadline and get widen -- biden in most of the debates and wait , to see how vulnerable hillary clinton is. i always thought, he can wait a good long time as long as he's on the ballot. he doesn't even need to campaign that muc

joe biden at 14. steve, what would be -- what could joe biden do coming out of the gate as a candidate to change those numbers in new hampshire? >> well, i tend to think they're going to change, if he gets in the race, just almost automatically. here's a guy who has -- >> what about that theory, a lot of people are throwing around this thing hey, your number is usually higher before you get in the race. >> well, i would point to somebody like donald trump. i hate to compare trump and biden too much, but in this case, what was he? 4 or 5%? he was the tenth guy on the stage and got in the race and shook all things up. he's got 80, 85% favorables among democrats he's the best liked democrat potentially in the race. if he gets in, it becomes a real thing for people. you'll see the numbers move. >> go ahead, e.j. >> i think it's hard to read the joe biden numbers. because on the one hand, he is not a candidate. for months, people said he won't run. you can imagine that would make peopleless likely even whe

bernie sanders and even joe biden. joe biden debated hillary clinton in 2008. didn't do too well. i think joe biden would do better. trish: blake burman says cnn could wait until last moment possible, eastern day of. joe biden if you want to be on the stage we'll take you. just from a pure television ratings standpoint they would be better off having biden on the stage. >> they would love it if joe biden came in at last minute. it will be ratings boom. they will not get 24 million trump got. might get 10 million if joe biden said you know what? i'm throwing my hat in. it would be exciting night. geeks like me would be really excited. >> he is going to, trish. he is going to. trish: go ahead, mark. >> i agree with chris. we now know the timeline for joe biden's entry into this race. cnn actually said they will take him on the day of the debate. tuesday this. two weeks from today. we'll see joe biden enter race on month the 12th. enter the race just in time for the debate. i think timeline is very clear. trish: do you think it will be that day? because it helps contribute to the hyp

biden has 14. and a decision to make about hillary. >> they're very good friends, they have been for a long while. i don't know if joe biden has the stomach to launch a campaign based on attacking hillary clinton. >> reporter: new york governor andrew cuomo compared biden's thought process now to that of his father, when mario cuomo pondered a presidential run in 1992. >> even as his son, we could talk about it, but it is a personal decision. because you have to want to do this with all your heart and soul. >> reporter: the woman running on the republican side, carly fiorina, polling fourth in new hampshire, learned she's included in the next gop debate. many in fiorina's party would rather not face joe biden in the fall. >> he has this personal narrative. the fact he lost his son. i think he has a likability factor. when he's able to connect with voters. this isn't something that hillary clinton lacks. >> reporter: biden backers are pressuring him to run. >> 2016. >> i'm riding with biden. >> i'm

joe biden i think perceives that. there are people who are nervous about her being able to close the deal. and so they look for another -- >> look at joe. >> -- another establishment candidate. >> we have an advantage. watching biden do what he did. i was standing out there with al roker at the last inaugural break. and he does this. he just loves contact. he loves the physical connection with regular people. i don't think it's even ideological or political. >> no, it's not. >> he wants to physically hold people. >> in many ways he's the opposite of clinton in that way. >> i think so. >> her people are now talking about how we're going to show you more of her heart. she's going to loosen up now. if you got to have assistants telling you that that's what the candidate is going to do, they obviously have a hard time doing that. joe biden does not. you're right. he's a natural at this. >> he would serve as president so he could run for office. she'll run so she can be president. >> there's a joy level and campaigning tha

those are all reasons for joe biden to get more serious. there's also the republican side of the poll with a good half-dozen storylines take to write in. obviously donald trump is at the top of the leaderboard and ben carson is in a solid second. but here is something striking -- in a head to head matchup, trump is virtually tied with hillary clinton. the margin is so small, you could not squeeze a thumb drive of deleted e-mails in there. what do these numbers say about the current state of the republican race? mark: it's going to be hard that they can't send trump into the general election against hillary clinton. now that inhing is every state poll that matters and every national poll, it is trump, then carson, and no one else is even close. havemeans those two guys created so much space between them and the others that it is going to be difficult for anyone else to get into the story line over the next few weeks and maybe even months. john: we will talk about if the establishment can rally behind someone as our next topic. carson.trump,

if biden pulls more from her than sanders, it's not enough to get sand eers or biden in first place. doesn't want to get in for a third time and face another -- you know, it's soul sucking to run for president. it's hard. he's just had this horrible thing. let him make his decision, i'm sure he is going to do what's best for him. >> in his time. he's acknowledging, that time is quickly running out. i have to get your take. as we are talking hillary clinton rising in the polls. clinton insiders say the voters are going to see more humor, more heart from clinton. this weekend, we saw a little of that. we saw her dancing on the campaign trail in a video from abc. then there was this hilarious appearance on jimmie fallon. look at this again. >> haven't seen you since my last wedding. >> i'm sure i'll see you at the next one. >> are you writing all this down? >> hold on. let me -- let me grab my pen. [ laughter ] >> john, i know it's exactly what you say anytime a source calls you. i'm grabbing my pen, a nice glass of wine. >> i go for jack daniels. >> there's a lot of alcohol combo in th

joe biden, there's an enormous amount of respect for joe biden.he new polling out there, it's not like in's an enormous ground swell that demands he runs. to the extent, i think the pivot about whether he will be a factor in the race has more to do with her and what happens to her ability to right the shift than to build a compelling campaign. >> let's talk about jeb bush, i know you support jeb bush, you like jeb bush, it's pretty inkreeging, donald trump's latest instagram video going after jeb bush. >> having trouble sleeping at night? too much energy, need some low energy? >> they have an hsa in some companies, some companies don't. i think the norm ought to be -- >> jeb, for all your sleeping needs. >> how does jeb bush fight that? >> i think by being jeb bush, i think he has begun to fight it, it's a real issue, it's taken some hits. it's kind of sticking. i think jeb needs to show that he's got the energy, that something that is a little vexing for those of us that know him, he was known for working 16, 18 hours a day, seven days a week, an

joe biden, there is an opportunity for joe biden to run. because hillary clinton is starting to really seriously leak some energy out of her campaign. but he's got to jump in with both feet. it might not have sounded to joey like a campaign speech. but in the snippets it kind of did and he's talking about declining middle class which really kind of happened in the last ten years so he's got to explain as he's campaigns. >> one person who wants him in the race, fellow named dick chen cheney. take a listen to what he said this morning on morning joe. >> i think it is good for the kmoktic party. they need more choices. they are far short of candidates compared to us. we've got a lot of candidates. i'd love to see joe run. my attitude is go for it. >> who would you rather see republicans up against next fall? >> i think that is a good question. depends how hillary does the next couple of months. my own opinion is i think joe biden would be an easier candidate to beat. that said hillary is not looking that strong. the easiest candidate for us to

we begin with joe biden. the significance of the fact that you reported that he met bundler forknown barack obama who is supporting hillary clinton. john h.: robert wolf, a huge bundler for obama. to go with decided obama and raised a lot of money and became very personally close that no onea way else in the business committee has. and a golfing buddy. he has written her a shot. he is not raised money to her. if you're thinking about possible defectors from the clinton donor world, he would be someone you might want to talk to. the vice president met with him in secret on friday. for 90 minutes. the way i describe it is the beginning of a courtship. vice president biden is not asking donors to sign up because he does not know if he is going to run yet, but he is starting to laying the groundwork for that conversation. and this is an audacious move by biden. he has not been out publicly himself. his campaign has talked to a lot of donors bit he himself has done a little bit of that, but to go and do this event

what do you expect over the next month or two in joe biden?an, it looks like he's going to get in. i don't understand why he would schedule this colbert appearance, march in a labor day parade in pittsburgh, and that's if you're going to look for a segment of the democratic constituency that will be with biden, i think afl-cio is most likely, their members. so this is what a ramp-up looks like for a presidential campaign. and unless he's teasing us, like, well, i don't want to make a comparison to teasing us. but unless it's a big tease, joe biden looks like he's running. >> i know he wants to. and i wonder if he's seeing how much fun he can have with this before he pulls back. so i'm still a little skeptical. eliana, next week, the new ho, stephen colbert, we looked at history of candidates starting on late night tv. bob dole, fred thompson. i don't think you want to be compared to those campaigns, i guess. >> careful, steve. [ laughter ] >> he'll sit down, he'll be asked the question. colbert is going to ask him, are you running? what do you

vice president joe biden at the event yesterday. this was a big, big rally for a higher minimum wage. listen to what the vice president said. >> it's reasonable. it's rational. it's the right thing to do. the federal minimum wage needs to be raised. it's been ten years. >> he said it is the last outstanding bit of business he would like to finish with his boss. he called stagnant wages a missing piece of the recovery. cuomo wants to extend it to all workers in the state. >>> it is september 11th. the nation will pause this morning. events at the world trade center and pentagon and shanksville, pennsylvania to remember the attacks of those who died in 2001. names will be read at the sites. >> this day never gets any easier. >> no. it is important every year. to give it an appropriate. >> a moment at the new york stock exchange. it will be a poignant moment downtown. everything stops. >>> new york's top cop apologizing for the mistaken identity of a tennis pro. that's next. your loving touch stimulates his senses and nurtures his mind

i've got to tell you, biden looked great at labor day parade in pittsburgh yesterday.t like a candidate, right? >> he's not on the ballot. he hasn't decided if he's going to run. people are saying if he does run, his numbers are higher than some of the other candidates. >> that is right. there's clearly a lot of affection for him. in heart. it's funny hillary talks about heart because i think that's what people like about biden. he seems like a real guy, you know? >> authenticity. >> good to see you. >> thank you for being authentically you. >>> baby fever as cub lovers get a treat. verizon now has one simple plan. just pick a size. small, medium, large and extra large. if you need less data, pick small. if you need more, go with extra large-- a whopping 12 gigs for $80 a month plus $20 per phone. pick a size. change it up anytime. it's the simple way to get the best network. and now, get $300 when you switch. only at verizon. can a a subconscious. mind? a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a bu

my attitude is, go for it, joe. >> meanwhile, draft biden, the organization urging biden to get in making south carolina. state senator and former state superintendent is l serve as co-chairs for the group and they have also started hiring field staff. joining me now from tallahassee is steve shale, a former strategist of president obama in florida and now adviser to the draft biden campaign. look at this, map, calendar, miami today and tomorrow, pittsburgh labor day, monday and then making the appearance with stephen colbert next thursday. we know in the past people made announcements on the runs on late night. is this a schedule of somebody to run into the 2016 race? >> francis, i know as much as you do right now draft biden we are trying to grow out the organization. as you have reported, we hired staff and south carolina today, we're busy towards announcing things in the future states and we're trying to do our job to get ready to make sure the president knows of volunteers throughout that have his back in this. >> but the clock is ticking. we would think you guys are anxious for a de

vice president biden replies. yes. i think you should run for president again and i'll be your vice president. to which stephen colbert says, well, you said this weekend that you don't know if you're emotionally prepared to run for president. vice president biden then said this. i'm quoting from the verbatim -- what we're told is a verbatim transcript, but again, i have to tell you, i have not seen this tape. quote, look, i don't think any man or woman should run for president unless, number one, they know exactly why they would want to be president, and number two, they can look folks out there in the eye and say i promise you, you have my whole heart, my whole soul, my energy and my passion to do this. and i'd be lying if i said that i knew i was there. it's uh -- i'm being completely honest. nobody has a right in my view to seek that office unless they're willing to give it 110% of who i am. i'm optimistic, positive about where we're going. but i find myself, you understand it, sometimes it overwhelms you. and i can

bring it around to joe biden. tell you forces at play with draft joe biden campaign.is coming from within the obama white house for very basic reason. greater moat sate for for democrats than the first elected woman president is protecting obama legacy. they don't trust hillary clinton will do that it is obama white house that wants joe biden in this race an he will enter this race. dagen: i will add this, richard. you can jump in here, if this economy is shaky, you have seen shakiness in the markets, having joe biden in the race would let hillary clinton run against what the white house did on the economy. >> exactly. look, again, you're not going to have any democrats, certainly not this democrat say anything unkind about joe biden, but, hillary clinton if she runs has the ability to talk her kinder, gentler, she will have a way to distance herself. if joe biden running much harder for him to put distance between himself and incumbent presidency. even the polls among democrats show hillary at 80% favorability which is appreciably higher than biden. and jeb bush in c

what is the next economic agenda, clinton, biden, someone else?obert: if you spoke to the president, he would feel good things, at the beginning he started with health care and jobs, coming to fruition every day. but to extend that, if you address respect -- in retrospect one thing he really wanted was , the idea of infrastructure. he never got his national infrastructure bank. never got his financing authority forward. truth is, we have $3 trillion worth of infrastructure. i don't just mean roads and bridges. we are talking about next-generation gts, fiber being laid out everywhere. al: that would be the top of any agenda. robert: yes. and as you mentioned before, the greatest multiplier of gdp is infrastructure. al: let's talk about the fed. they did not raise interest rates. did they handle it? robert: i was not a supporter of the fed raising rates because , the volatility has been incredible. i think the global growth has been slowing. imf came out with a forecast of slower than normal. i actually would not be for raising in -- i don't think i

biden's supporters aren't waiting around for him to make up his mind. the draft biden organization says it now has a presence in all 50 states. strategist teven schale signed on here in florida. >> we're going out and beginning to talk to staff building infrastructure there. i do believe talking to the donors i have in the last week or so there's real enthusiasm out there. >> reporter: and biden who has run for president twiet twooes before, did make one comment today that many saw as a sign of willing to jump in. >> people who don't risk failing never succeed. >> reporter: the risk of failure would be high. another poll out today shows clinton's favorability ratings among democrats are 10 points higher than biden's and scott she does better among hispanics african americans and moderate democrats. >> pelley: today a county clerk in kentucky asked a federal judge for an emergency suspension of the order that requires her to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples. kim davis' lawyer argue that the licenses would have "irreversible implications for he

versus hillary clinton, who is for biden? >> oh that's a really, really hard question. >> tough question. >> reporter: it could be a tough road ahead for biden who hasn't raised any money or hired a single campaign staffer. among the challenges is biden willing to go after clinton and risk fracturing the party. clinton remains better liked than biden among democrats. biden has won twice for president,er in winning a single state, withdrawing after earning less than 1% in iowa. he would be the oldest president 74 at inauguration and must decide whether he has an emotional fuel for another run after the recent loss of his son bo. >> not only do democrats love uncle joe, right now republicans love uncle joe but if he sticks around he'll probably overstay his welcome. >> reporter: there was one more memorable moment at the end of today's event, as joe biden greeted guests in the front row, we tried to get a straight answer about 2016, even shouting questions from the back of the room that he ignored with a smile before the event

, i even like joe biden. joe biden is a likeable guy. joe biden had a long run. people feel they have connection to him. i think it is very concerning. just like ford said, if this thing could blow up and go away for hillary. she would be all right with the name i.d. and all the money. constants starting to seeing polling. as democratic operative you never want this stuff to continue and continue so you can't quell it. trish: where does she go from here? she knows joe biden is out there. talking about bringing in the big dog, considering it with her husband potentially making round on campaign trail. as we watch her polling number, not forget, ford, she has aways to go. >> she absolutely has a way to go. it is straight shot to the nomination for her if joe biden does not get in the race. if joe biden bets in the race, only way he knocks her off if he gets president obama's backing. what hillary clinton has really rock solid right now, minority and hispanic black support. 57% favorability. only some white hype

but joe biden is likable.h the debate he had with paul ryan in 2012, he can throw elbows, too. >>> a new reuters poll ask asked democrats around the country in a national poll this question about hillary clinton and their second choice. the question was phrased this way. if polling indicated that hillary clinton would lose to a pub can candidate for president in the 2016 election, who would you then support in the democratic primary? there's joe biden at the top of that one 40.4% say they go 0 to biden. 28% bernie sanders. that's the kind of internal polling question the biden team maybe staring at closely. >> they must be looking at that. they are also looking at the questions about hillary clinton's e-mails trying to figure out where that heads and where it is likely to go. i think the most important thing they are looking at is, you know, what vice president biden said on the call the other day, he is looking inside, internally to see if he has the fire, the desire, the emotional fortitude left after his re

biden and hillary clinton working side by side for years. just last week the democratic front-runner, offering nothing but praise. >> i have a great deal of admiration and affection for him. >> reporter: will he or won't he? it's a decision that may not come until the end of the month. >> that source close to biden telling abc news it's more likely than not that he'll run? >> surprising words. one of the things weighing heavily in this decision is the recent death of his son beau in may. biden telling supporters his heart and his soul has to be in it and right now he says he's pretty banged up. >>> a big victory for president obama tonight. his nuclear deal with iran under fire from republicans threatening to defeat it. tonight the president's deal is safe thanks to senator barbara mccull ski of maryland. giving the president 34 votes, enough to override the senate. >>> we turn now to that showdown in kentucky. the county clerk denying same sex couples marriage licenses. she returned to work today with an armed escort and turning down yet an

let me begin with joe biden. the significance of the fact that you reported that he met with a well-known bundler for barack obama who is supporting hillary clinton. >> yes, well, robert wolf, former c.e.o. of ubs americas, a huge bundler for o decided no the to goomeone with hillary clinton in 200 will, raised a lot of money for obama an became personally close to obama in a which that almost no one else in the business community has. >> rose: and a golfing buddy. >> and a golfing buddy. he is nominally for secretary clintonton. he has in the raised any money or signed up to be a meggar bundlering. so if you have thinking of defecters, me would be someone you what want to talk to. the vice president met with him on secret on friday, not on his public schedule for about 90 minutes. the way i would describe it is the beginning of a courtship. you know, vase president biden is to the asking donors to sign up with him yet because he doesn't know if he is going to run yet. but he's starting to lay the ground work for

joe biden and 2016. tonight, into all of this interesting and late-breaking news, dropped one more interesting tea leaf. probably the biggest thing, the biggest granular thing that really sparked this new round of interest about whether or not joe biden would run is when someone in the biden camp last month leaked that the vice president had requested and in fact taken a private meeting in washington, d.c. with democratic senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts. joe biden had been home in delaware but he traveled back to washington, d.c. just to meet with elizabeth warren. and it was just the two of them. and that was what really kicked off all the joe biden wondering. and it's been sort of a mystery since then about what exactly was discussed in that private meeting. tonight "boston globe" spoke with elizabeth warren about that meeting. a globe reporter interviewed her at an event at a suffolk university in boston. he asked her what she and vice president biden talked about during that meeting. he ask