to cross talk i'm peter lavelle the aids biz fighting a deadly virus with the endless funding of big pharma how much consensus is there within the scientific community how much dissent does confronting the aids epidemic need a complete rethink. continue. to discuss the world's largest medical problem i'm joined by denis broome in vienna he's the united nations aids regional director for europe and central asia. in mine him we have peter duesberg a professor of molecular and cell biology at the university of california berkeley and in new haven we go to steve catcher he's the president of global pharma insights and another member of our crosstalk team on the hunger all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want then he said i to go to you first in vienna you're at the can this international aids conference it's the eighteenth fund raising is an issue i seriously doubt awareness has to be an issue at least in the modernized industrialized world but everyone knows about this epidemic so what do you hope to achieve at this conference is it looks like t

you but i mean that big pharma is how you really had a bad rap over the last few years maybe the last two or three years that it's gotten its act together at least is a public relations point of view because a lot of people are saying just making huge amounts of money off of it and i go back to big pharm a little bit later but i'd like to go to denise here at the united nations and other act and advocates that you have come across in vienna are they satisfied with the participation and the work that the big pharma is done in dealing with this virus because like i said over the last except maybe the last two years it was the big pharma had a very black name when it came to dealing with this virus. what is difficult to say that if you have all of the inventions. hiv have been developed by big pharma they have come up from the horse out of different laboratories public private but big pharma has been developing them getting them to patients and these drugs when they fell out of patent have been taken by generic manufacturers who are very important suppliers for the treatment of people ar

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caller: we know how much pressure that big pharma -- the power they have on government. sometimes they approve drugs without human trials. it is because of the pressure of big pharma. you don't do human trials on every single drug? guest: let me talk about generic drugs. they are under special rules for the fda. it does not cost a lot to b uy a generic drug. the way that drugs are approved are through lab studies, where half to show that they are equivalent chemically to the existing product. the brand-name drug you are familiar with has gone to safety and effectiveness testing in people. large clinical trials usually prove that the drug works. it is on the market for a certain amount of time and the patent expires and and the generics come, on and off for 80% less than what you had before --. they come on and they offer a 80% less than what you had before. host: clyde from michigan, independent line. caller: good morning. i was wondering if you could elaborate a bit on the fba's times the -- fba's attempts to protect us from all the injuries -- go after it -- fda's atte

when the prescription drug handout was give to big pharma, no fiscal responsibility then. but when the poor, hardworking people of america find themselves without work and say, you know what, still looking for work, haven't found one and need some help from my fellow americans is like, no, no, no. we can't help you because we have to worry about the deficit. why so much concern, so much heart felt angst about what the wealthiest, most privileged americans need but nothing for a cold heart and a closed purse for people who are in an emergency situation? mr. speaker, i ask, what about the debts of the people who are unemployed? what about them having to go to family and borrow money? what about them being captured by the payday lenders and folks who take advantage of poor people who don't have any money and don't have unemployment insurance? what about their debt? the american people should respond. i don't want to say to the party opposite that this is heartless. it looks that way. i don't want my friends in the opposite show that they don't support poor people. this is the

when the prescription drug handout was giveo big pharma, no fiscal responsibility then. but when the poor, hardrking people of america find themselves without work and say, you know what, still looking for work, haven't found one and need some help from my fellow americans is like, no, no, no. we can't help you because we have to worry about the deficit. why so much concern, so much heart felt angst about what the wealthiest, most privileged americans need but nothing for a cold heartnd a closed purse for people who are in an emergency situation? mr. speaker, i ask, what about the debts of the people who are unemployed? what about them having to go to family and borrow money? what about them being captured by the payday lenders and folks who take advantage of poor people who don't have any money and don't have unemployment insurance? what about their debt? the american people should respond. i don't want to say to the party opposite that this is heartless. it looks that way. i don't want my friends in the opposite show that they don't support poor people. this is the rig

when the prescription drug handout was give to big pharma, no fiscal responsibility then. but when the poor, hardworking people of america find themselves without work and say, you know what, still looking for work, haven't found one and need some help from my fellow americans is like, no, no, no. we can't help you because we have to worry about the deficit. why so much concern, so much heart felt angst about what the wealthiest, most privileged americans need but nothing for a cold heart and a closed purse for people who are in an emergency situation? mr. speaker, i ask, what about the debts of the people who are unemployed? what about them having to go to family and borrow money? what about them being captured by the payday lenders and folks who take advantage of poor people who don't have any money and don't have unemployment insurance? what about their debt? the american people should respond. i don't want to say to the party opposite that this is heartless. it looks that way. i don't want my friends in the opposite show that they don't support poor people. this is the