biggs. biggs. bilirakis. mccarthy. bishop of georgia. jeffries. bishop of north carolina. biggs. blumenauer. jeffries. blunt rochester. jeffries. boebert. jordan. bonamici. jeffries. bost. mccarthy. bowman. jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. jeffries. jeffries.brecheen. banks. brown. jeffries. brownley. jeffries. buchanan. mccarthy. buck. mccarthy. bucshon. mccarthy. budzinksi. jeff rils. jeffries. burchett. mccarthy. burgess. mccarthy. burlison. mccarthy. bush. jeffries. calvert. mccarthy. cammack. cammack. mccarthy. caraveo. jeffries. carbajal. jeffries. cardenas. jeffries. carey. mccarthy. carl. mccarthy. carson. jeffries. carter of georgia. mccarthy. carter of louisiana. jeffries. carter of texas. mccarthy. cartwright. jeffries. casar. jeffries. case. jeffries. casten. jeffries. castor of florida. jeffries. castro of texas. castro of texas. jeffries. chavez-deremer. mccarthy. cherfilus-mccormick. jeffries. chu. jeffries. cicilline. jeffries. ciscomani. mccarthy. clark of massachusetts. jeffries. clarke of new york. jeffries. cleaver. cloud. jordan. clyburn. jeffries. clyde. big

biggs got the lion's share of that. i wouldn't think that all of those 19 are hard "nos" and we heard hard yeses but not all hard-nosed. but when you take a look at what andy biggs is saying, it doesn't look like in the amount of force trading can placate and bring him over to the maccarthy si side. mccarthy is never going to get speaker. >> that is right. it was interesting what happened over the weekend, john. they got this huge recession for maccarthy that only five people can force a revote of the speakership. so at any time they would be able to hold his feet to the fire and say, you know, we are not going this way with you and you don't come along with us on the vote, we will vote for a new speaker and throw this back up into the breeze to see what happens. >> john: the voters are saying that is not good enough. we want threshold number one. >> absolutely. it was hoped to figure out what these individuals want. when you look back in that way, it makes it seem very personal. >> sandra: all right, martha, thank you

good of virginia -- biggs. gooden of texas -- mccarthy. >> you have been watching live the capitol hill house floor where we are now and mccarthy does not have enough votes at this point to win over the house speaker. obviously looking for the majority of those voting with 218. as you can see from the screen, jeffries is leaving right now was 75 of those boats and mccarthy 72 at this moment. and zero have voted present. and the affairs on capitol hill, john, as we know this will go on. >> john: it will. it will go on for some time. it looks like he will not get the first vote because jim jordan and andy biggs called out as well. you just heard there and that means he likely won't get to a team and a first round of voting. if he doesn't, there will be a whole lot of horse training going on to see if something there is mccarthy to do to convince skeptical republicans to throw in a with him. sandra, based on the g.o.p. conference this morning from it does not sound like that is going to happen. >> sandra: a big qu

biggs. present. >> andy biggs voting present. and if everyone votes the same way this time the way they voted last time, with the exception of andy biggs, then kevin mccarthy will finally on the 15th ballot win the speakership. let's listen in. we still have some more votes. we have lauren boebert to listen to. >> mccarthy. bishop of georgia. jeffreys. bishop of north carolina, mccarthy. blumenauer? jeffreys. rochester, jeffreys. boebert. >> present. >> so lauren boebert votes present, which is what she did last time. again, if matt gaetz continues to vote present or if any other of the holdouts switch, that's it. it does look, i have to say -- although i -- i hesitate to make any predictions, but if i was kevin mccarthy right now, which is a tough thing to imagine, but if i were, i would think, okay, finally we got all of the dominos in place. >> and you know, it's funny, we were talking about the unprecedented things we saw play out on the floor. mccarthy has been careful with how he's conducted himself on the floor. >> until a

andy biggs is in nomination. he voted for himself. matt gaetz voted for biggs. bob good voted for biggs. we haven't heard from norman or rosen dale. these are all defections i'm marking off here. these are all defections we have seen so far. andy harris voted for lee cel don. so if the move from healthcare car thi's folks after this first vote is concluded is to move immediately into a second vote, they would obviously hope some of these republicans who voted for other names just get persuaded and vote for mccarthy. that would be their ideal situation. the other possibility, the other thing i think they would hope for is if some of these names say like an a day harris, instead of voting for somebody else by name if they just started voting present, because that does change the math. anybody voting present or abstaining changes the magic number. there are 434 members-elect who are this voting. the vote counts if you vote for somebody by name. if you vote present, it's not considered an official vote. if you abstain, it's not considered an official vote. it's the

. >> andy biggs. >> biggs. cohen. >> i have eight times passed my vote for the greatest speaker of a generation, nancy pelosi. i proudly cast my vote for the next great speaker of the house of representatives, hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. cole. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> collins. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. komer. comer. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> connelly. >> hakeem jeffries of new york. >> jeffries. costa? >> the gentleman from new york, hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> courtney. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> craig. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> crane. >> biggs. >> biggs. crawford? >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> crenshaw. >> senator mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> crockett. >> my first and very unified for hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. crow. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. cuellar. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. curtis. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. davids of kansas. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. davidson. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> davis of illinois. >> with enthusiasm for hakeem jeffri

bice. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> biggs. >> biggs. >> biggs .eorgia. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. bishop of north carolina. >> biggs. >> biggs. blumenauer. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. blunt rochester. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. boebert. >> my cast for vote for jordan. >> jordan. >> bonamici. -- hakeem jeffries. >> sdpref fries. bost. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> bowman. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. brakim. >> banks. >> banks. >> brown. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> brownlee. >> proudly hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. buchanan. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. buck. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. bucshon. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> ba sing ski. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. burchett. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> burgess. >> senator mccarthy. >> mccarthy. burleson. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. bush. >> the one who fights against white supremacy, hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. calvert. >> mccarthy from california. >> mccarthy. >> cammack. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. karbaj

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the andy biggs number not that big with ten. i think there was an expectation that he was going to draw some of those because he has been forecasting for quite a while that he was going to run against speaker mccarthy, but the big question here i have is do they go into another vote right away, which is what we expect to happen, but what is the change, the breaking point that either means that mccarthy's going to sway some of these people for himself or not? you see him on the floor right now. he's taking photos. seems pretty jovial, in a good mood. it's not as if the body language has changed. he still seems very confident despite this no confidence vote by many members in this vote. >> what's interesting know, he's fully aware the cameras are trained on him for the most part. granted they're not this moment. that said, we have been been watching him. he has, for the most part, kept a smile on his face. when you look at his top lieutenants, if you will, they look pretty darn somber. what do you expect though jim jordan will say

biggs. let's listen. >> mccarthy, biggs, biggs, jordan. >> well, there goes my theory. >> okay. >> okay, hold on. let's just listen. boebert is going to come up here. let's listen. >> bishop of georgia, jeffries. bishop of north carolina, mccarthy. jeffries. >> it's going to come to lauren boebert. >> jeffries. boebert, present. >> present, there you go. that's your first -- >> you hear the round of applause. >> this was going to be the play -- this was the play that was established when nancy pelosi ran under similar circumstances, not this kind of thing but she had a very small margin in the house and there were people who ran in tough districts who said they wouldn't vote for her for speak. two of them voted present, that allowed her to reduce the threshold and she won with 216 votes. so this is a playbook that's been worked before, and obviously once they got close, this is where they were going. >> now, there's still a couple paths, john, you could go from here. obviously watching rosen

biggs. >> what's that about? jeffries has cast a ballot for andy biggs, which doesn't matter, because neither jim jordan or andy biggs is going to win. but that is a no vote for kevin mccarthy. yes, with crane it should light up here in the second. and as you say, biggs, the point he cast a vote for another member. it's not a present vote. it's not a vote for mccarthy. so, now, you've got three names left on the list, which are -- >> goods, and rosendale? >> yes, we are about 50 names away from matt gaetz, and there's a bit of time right here. and i should say there's a little bit of drama as well. they are reporting from our nbc news team that right now can block, a mccarthy supporter who wasn't there earlier in the day, supposedly on his way back to vote for mccarthy, teams are reporting he's not yet in the building. they're not away aware if he's in the building. yet it's unclear if he's going to be there for the vote. you could still enter the building. he would still have an opportunity to vote at the end. b

andy biggs and eli crane and matt rosendale, holdouts. shannon bream is standing by with us, and bret baier as well. you'll be talking about this on fox news sunday at length. he's picking them off one by one each vote. >> what i heard overnight from some inside the negotiations, they did think a big chunk would go today. they felt good about moving forward with the deal they were working with, but they did not know what it would take to get the other handful. we keep talking about this. those who said they will never under any circumstance vote for kevin mccarthy, not about policy or rule changes, they do not trust him. even some folks who flipped votes minutes ago, scott perry notable among them, if the framework falls apart i'm out. so they still have a bit of a trust issue that mccarthy will hold to the deal and seems like at least six of them are unconvinced on the gop side. all six of those votes were for jim jordan, he will join us on sunday. you have to talk about what it does to the larger picture of the optics of whether gop hou

eli crain for andy biggs, biggs for jim jordan, matt rosendale for bigs.f all 434 members vote we're right now at the edge, the delta of how many members kevin mccarthy can lose. it comes down to 4. this could hinge on matt gaetz. if he votes, if he votes at all, if he votes for mccarthy, if he votes for somebody else by name. that's the key. now ken buck flew back in from colorado, missed the vote. i'm told that he will make it up. they'll run through those who did not vote at the end there. they can cast their ballots so don't worry about ken buck if that sense but this will all hinge on what matt gaetz decides to do. i'm told there is an intense conversation with matt gaetz and allies of kevin mccarthy in the back of the chamber right now. this is high drama tonight laura. >> laura: well, chad, at some point i think the question will become, you've got all these concessions, you've run out of things to ask for as gaetz said, you begin to look unserious. that's the problem. after all of these concessions have been agreed to by kevin mccarthy. so you wond

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i was told by the republican leadership to look toward andy biggs, ironic, given biggs was the figure head vote, sort of vote sink against mccarthy. behind closed doors and the first ballot in the speaker election, somebody who might be flipable here, and also matt rosendale potentially somebody who the leadership team will be leaning on but it is essentially all of the stops are pulled out now, for the next several hours, and focus on getting those two members back here, in their seats, and the remaining holdouts flipped at least halfway to present. >> brendan bucks, you have biggs on your bingo card for the most likely flipable member at this point. >> you get down to this and think about relationships and where can people go, gosar of arizona was one of the big holdouts and he flipped earlier today. so we have a big arizona delegation issue. eli crane, another freshman from arizona. so you try to see if somebody who has a lot of credentials, they have the relationships, can you work their friends, and move them over, you have two freshmen there, those are always hard to figure out

you look at andy biggs. reelected after being publicly on the front lines of urging state legislaures to toss out the results of their voters and send donald trump's slate of lek electors. eli crane, it was interesting to watch who he was a talking with there. he was talking with a fellow republican freshman here. and he was just elected out of wisconsin. interestingly, he was outside of the capitol building on january 6th. that is who was sitting next to eli crane. eli was talking with bannon. he said that 95% of the folks in his district overwhelmingly do not want him to support kevin mccarthy. this is a man who was a former navy seal seal who had the courage to stand with us. this is somebody who is going to take this to the end here. when you're looking at those consequences, we watch paul gosar flip, buff you have the likes of lauren boebert that was their 1776. there's been no political consequences. if anything they are winning support among the conservatives back home. >> people who were elected with

back story on andy biggs?who was on the forefront of election denialism. he exchanged text messages with mark meadows asserting legislatures could throw out results and how they voted in order to send and make donald trump the president. but also andy biggs is the face of defiance. i think over the last ten years, you have watched those defiant voices in the republican party from ted cruz to andy biggs, lauren boebert, donald trump himself, defiance wins among republican voters. until republican voters shoot them down in the primary, last little reason to step away. >> they have shot a lot of them down. lauren boebert almost fell down. let's talk about primary elections. one of the concessions that kevin mccarthy made was by proxy i guess his superpac head a deal with the club for growth to not put money into open seats for gop primaries. how does that affect who gets elected to congress? >> well, it's a commitment from mccarthy's political machine that they are not going to vie to unseat some of these rebels

we are about ten names away from andy biggs right now. and when he is called, then folks, you'll then hear five more names, and then it will be boebert. so again, one vote for her car there and one present, does it. >> it feels for me, we are listening for andy biggs is up for about seven names now. let's just listen. >> mccarthy. barr. mccarthy. bear again. jeffries. dina florida. mccarthy. -- hakeem jeffries. fits? mccarthy. -- jeffrey is. bird man. mccarthy. buyer? jeffries. -- mccarthy! [applause] bags? president. >> that's andy biggs voting present, steve? >> that's him voting for mccarthy had every bow. two more, and a vote for mccarthy. one of these next two makes him the next speaker. boebert is one of five names. she's switching them for mccarthy. >> let's listen for boebert she voted present last time. let's see what she does now. lauren boebert of carolina. >> -- mccarthy. blue and how are. jeffries. rochester. jeffries. boebert? president. >> all right, so that hasn't changed sleeve. she voted present last time and she's votin

biggs, gaetz. rosendale. congresswoman boebert. all sitting together discussing almost entirely amongst themselves something here. and here is gaetz voting now. voting for jordan. they have sat together throughout. they seem to be working together throughout. and while they chose not to place a name in nomination this time, think it is pretty clear that at least that core four have decided they're going to hang together at least a little bit longer and gaetz's vote for jordan here, i think we're once again pretty stuck with unlucky number 13 here, not being the vote that is going to put kevin mccarthy over the top, unless something else crazy happens in the back half. and rosendale, being kind of the missing number of that group who dug in together and seated together, not really allowing themselves to be whipped by other members, has yet to vote. i have a hard time seeing him flipping as well. >> steve, when we come back, and the republicans who are currently out come back to session, say the vote gets adjourned today and we start

andy biggs is first up. lauren boebert is the third to vote in terms of those who have been against mccarthy. don't have to get that far down to get to matt gaetz. you are looking at bob good from virginia. good was saying, you never have to ask me the question again. i'm always going to be against kevin mccarthy. if the number there is four that would do him in, that number -- it's not hard to see him reaching that real quick here. the other question is, if he does fail again on this ballot, how much progress has he made? has he made any progress? >> what we are watching, the fact it's front loaded, we will know early. but we are also watching what's happening -- they called for a quorum call. this takes a while. they are stalling for time. they have come out of meetings. they were in meetings last night. brendan, how do you read reports from kevin mccarthy's own comments that they have made progress, maybe narrowing a gap, but clearly not there yet? >> projecting a little optimism. one thing we know is thi

when biggs changed his vote, you heard a [ applause ] . good, crane. but they're not so happy. >> -- >> and by the way, he is on record saying to somebody that he would rather be water boarded by liz cheney than vote for kevin mccarthy for speaker. >> we've danced around this a little bit, because i don't -- obviously no one wants to get over their skeez for the reporting, in terms of how people feel about matt gaetz and the republican conference, but now we have it on video and in still photos. which is mike rogers literally lunging at the man, having to be physically restrained. and he is not the only one who i think feels that way about matt gaetz inside the republican conference. i mean, the view of the emotion on display right there is just kind of a remarkable snapshot. and i think really also this is not a conference that is driven by policy differences or disagreements. this is personal. >> i mean, people have said it on our air that the perception of matt gaetz is that he spends more time on cable television talking and raising money than doin

voted for andy biggs.ny surprises you thought going into this that one of those people might have voted present or for kevin mccarthy? because they stuck to their guns. >> they did. crain was one that i was told was possibly going to vote present. the other three were kind of never kevin, in the never kevin crowd and we're not going to vote for mccarthy one-way or another and they didn't think they needed them. ken buck just flew in and he missed the first time that he was named but he made it to the chamber and he voted when they called his name. wes hunt, his child is in nicu, just born, newborn child, he flew in from texas leaving his family so he could vote. so they got those two extra votes that they didn't have before for mccarthy. but this has to change, otherwise this is a no. this would be 14th ballot denying mccarthy. and then, you know, you have to hold everyone together. the other thing, trace, is that this is so delicate because mccarthy and the allies gave a lot of concessions about how this

>> biggs. >> bilirakis? >> kevin mccarthy. >> bishop of georgia?. >> bishop of north carolina? >> biggs. >> blumenauer? >> jeffries. >> blunt rochester? >> jeffries. >> boebert? >> cast my vote for jordan. >> bonamici? >> jeffries. >> bost? >> kevin mccarthy. >> bowman? >> hakeem jeffries. >> boyle of pennsylvania? >> jeffries. >> brecheen? >> banks. >> brown? >> hkeem jeffries. >> brownley? >> jeffries. >> buchanan? >> mccarthy. >> buck? >> is mccarthy. >> bucshon? >> mccarthy. >> budzinski? >> jeffries. >> burchett? >> mccarthy. >> burgess? >> mccarthy. burlison? >> mccarthy. >> bush? jeffries. >> calvert? >> mccarthy. >> cammack? >> mccarthy. >> carbajal? >> jeffries. >> cardenas? >> jeffries. car, y? >> mccarthy. >> carl? >> mccarthy. >> carson? >> jeffries. >> carter of georgia? >> kevin mccarthy. >> carter of louisiana? >> hakeem jeffries. >> carter of texas? >> mccarthy. >> cartwright? >> jeffries. >> casar? >> jeffries. >> case? >> jeffries. >> casten? >> jeffries. >> castor of florida? >> jeffries. >> castro of texas? jeffries. >> chavez-d

the honorable andy biggs of the state of arizona has received 10. the honorable jim jordan of the state of ohio has received six. the honorable jim banks of the state of indiana has received one. the honorable lee zeldin of the state of new york has received one. the honorable byron donalds of the state of florida has received one. no persons having received a majority of the whole number of votes cast by surname, a speaker has not been elected. following the procedure used by the house in 1923 and recorded in cannons precedent volume 6, section 24, the clerk is prepared to direct the reading clerk to call a roll anew. for what purpose does the gentleman from ohio seek recognition? mr. jordan: i rise to nominate kevin mccarthy for speaker of the house. the clerk of the house: the gentleman is recognized. mr. jordan: thank you, madam clerk. i think we have three objectives this congress. three fundamental things we have to get done in the 118th congress. first, pass the bills that fix the problems. in two year's time we have a border that is no longe

that last night she was not explicitly going to vote for mccarthy, and they were not going vote andy biggs, but somebody they aligned with ideologically, but jim jordan said he has no want to be a candidate, and if he did, he, too, would fall short of the 218 vote, and that is if mccarthy cannot get there to 218, who can? steve scalise would also fall short, and so the same group that mccarthy cut with the hard-line members would fall short of the member, and those who don't like those concessions said they would not support that with any other speaker candidate with all kinds of speaker problems here. >> and melissa, does the former president trump, does he have a role to play here? >> well, he is a major fact in that -- think of this, and some of the rations that donald trump weighed into, the ten house republicans that decided to vote for his impeachment, he made sure every one of them lost. i am wishing that jamie catco and peter meyer, and i would hope they were here in the rock rib moderates were here, instead, some of the more far right characters won this election cycle, and that i

can i take this back to andy biggs? stuart: yeah. lauren: major trump ally.s vote mccarthy. he didn't swing a single person to his side, and i loved this editorial in the arizona republic, the hometown newspaper for andy biggs: donald trump populism is dying. and if you could choose anyone to lead its it, i couldn't think of anyone more fitting than andy biggs. stuart: mollie hemingway is with us this morning, can you give us any idea on how this speaker vote is going to play out today, over the weekend or next week? how does it end? >> well, i'm not sure if anyone can predict exactly when it will be resolved. you have a lot of people pushing for a quick resolution here, but really if you don't like how congress has been operating in recent years, if you don't think that congress is operating in a healthy fashion, you should be very happy with how these negotiations are going. you know, stuart, that kevin mccarthy has agreed to many of the demands that these conservative holdouts have -- stuart: all of them. >> these concessions are good though. i mean, held

all ten of the biggs voters including biggs himself voted for jordan. all six of the jordan voters the first time around heard jordan deliver a nominating speech for mccarthy for the second ballot and turned around and voted for jordan again anyway. so 19 votes now for jordan. they are completing alphabetically the final tally. mccarthy's going to fall well short again. you're going to have jeffries, the democrat, actually have more votes on this ballot than mccarthy. nowhere near the majority for jeffries. as garrett was saying, jordan looms large in terms of is he really going to dig in here for mccarthy and can he sway some of these members? but you're getting indications that, not all 19, but they're just so dug in and mathematically, when your starting point for republicans is 212 and if you're mccarthy, you just cannot afford that many defections here. took about five minutes i think in this vote for the first five defections to come up to put him at 217. so the math is just extremely narrow when you're starting point is 222 and you're seeing agai

biggs. jordan. bilirakis. bilirakis. mccarthy. bishop of georgia. jeffries. bishop of north carolina. mccarthy. blumenauer. jeffries. blunt rochester. jeffries. boebert. jordan. bonamici. jeffries. bost. mccarthy. bowman. jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. jeffries. brecheen. mccarthy. brown. jeffries. brownley. jeffries. buchanan. mccarthy. buck. buck. bucshon. mccarthy. budzinski. jeffries. burchett. mccarthy. burgess. mccarthy. burlison. mccarthy. bush. jeffries. calvert. mccarthy. cammack. mccarthy. caraveo. jeffries. carbajal. jeffries. cardenas. jeffries. carey. mccarthy. carl. mccarthy. carson. jeffries. carter of georgia. mccarthy. carter of louisiana. jeffries. carter of texas. mccarthy. cartwright. jeffries. casar. jeffries. case. jeffries. casten. jeffries. castor of florida. jeffries. castro of texas. jeffries. chavez-deremer. mccarthy. cherfilus-mccormick. jeffries. chu. jeffries. cicilline. jeffries. ciscomani. mccarthy. clark of massachusetts. jeffries. clarke of new york. jeffries. cleaver. jeffries. cline. cline. cloud. mccarthy. clyburn. jeffr

biggs, donalds. bilirakis, mccarthy. bishop of georgia, jeffries. bishop of north carolina. bishop of north carolina. blumenauer, jeffries. blunt rochester, jeffries. boebert. hern. bonamici, jeffries. bost, mccarthy. bowman, jeffries. the clerk of the house: will the house be in order. the clerk: boyle of pennsylvania, jeffries. brecheen. brecheen, hern. brown, jeffries. brownley, jeffries. buchanan, mccarthy. buck, mccarthy. bucshon, mccarthy. budzinski, jeffries. burchett, mccarthy. burgess, mccarthy. burlison, mccarthy. bush, jeffries. calvert, mccarthy. cammack. cammack, mccarthy. caraveo, jeffries. carbajal, jeffries. cardenas, jeffries. carey, mccarthy. carl, mccarthy. carson, jeffries. carter of georgia, mccarthy. carter of louisiana, jeffries. carter of texas, mccarthy. cartwright, jeffries. casar, jeffries. case, jeffries. casten, jeffries. castor of florida, jeffries. castro of texas, jeffries. chavez-deremer, mccarthy. cherfilus-mccormick, jeffries. chu, jeffries. cicilline, jeffries. ciscomani, mccarthy. clark of massachusetts, jeffries. clarke of new york, jeff

congressman matt gaetz, andy biggs and scott perry reportedly asked trump for pardons. gaetz related to an ongoing federal sex trafficking investigation, and biggs and perry for their roles in the insurrection at the capitol. biggs and perry also among those referred to the january 6th committee to the house ethics committee for defying its subpoenas, the same house ethics committee mccarthy has agreed to gut if he's made speaker. and let's not forget paul gosar and his own family, his own siblings call him a white supremacist. joining me now mark lebovic and stewart stevens. to you, i'm going to start with you at the table, mark, because there isn't -- let me first of all read you a tweet that i think the truest thing ever said in republican politics in the last decade and from senator lindsey graham. he said if you nominate trump we'll get destroyed and we'll deserve it. the tea party started i believe the descent into this kind of politics. this is the insurrection mob that's now formed an insurrection against kevin mccarthy. >> yes, it is a mob. it is kind of organi

biggs. donalds. bilirakis. mccarthy. bishop of georgia. jeffries. bishop of north carolina. donalds. blumenauer. jeffries. blunt rochester. jeffries. boebert. donalds. bonamici. jeffries. bost. bost. mccarthy. bowman. jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. jeffries. brecheen. donalds. brown. jeffries. brownley. jeffries. buchanan. mccarthy. buck. buck. bucshon, mccarthy. budzinski, jeffries. burchett, mccarthy. burgess, mccarthy. burlison, mccarthy. bush, jeffries. calvert, mccarthy. cammack, mccarthy. caraveo, jeffries. carbajal, jeffries. cardenas, jeffries. carey, mccarthy. carl, mccarthy. carson, jeffries. carter of georgia, mccarthy. carter of louisiana, jeffries. carter of texas, mccarthy. cartwright, jeffries. casar, jeffries. case, jeffries. casten, jeffries. castor of florida, jeffries. castro of texas, jeffries. chavez-deremer, mccarthy. cherfilus-mccormick, jeffries. chu, jeffries. cicilline, jeffries. ciscomani, mccarthy. clark of massachusetts, jeffries. clarke of new york, jeffries. cleaver, jeffries. cline, mccarthy. cloud. cloud. clyburn, jeffries. clyde. clyde, do

laura: a couple names that we will probably hear about jim jordan, andy biggs. they got some votes on this first round. unlikely that they are going to be able to get the majority of the republican caucus. they are very conservative. the other names that are more likely are steve scalise, the current number two house republican, patrick mchenry, chairman of the financial services committee. but there is hesitation from those people to throw their name into the ring until it is clear mccarthy will fail because they do not want to create this rift between themselves and kevin mccarthy. alix: thank you very much. laura davidson on the update. coming up, sam bankman-fried on the verge of entering a not guilty plea. the latest from the courthouse. this is bloomberg. ♪ [office sounds] ♪upbeat music♪ ♪♪ ♪when the day that lies ahead of me♪ ♪♪ ♪seems impossible to face♪ ♪a lovely day (lovely day)♪ ♪(lovely day) (lovely day)♪ ♪(lovely day)♪ a bank that knows your business grows your business. bmo. alix: this is "bloomberg markets ." i am alix steel with amber kanwar. sam

biggs, for five minutes. mr. biggs: thank you, mr. speaker. if i had known it was you i would have come down more often. i honor the life and legacy of russell pierce, a constituent, a colleague, a patriot and a dear friend. russell passed january 5, 2023, in mesa, arizona. a fifth generation arizonan with a deep pioneer heritage, russell was born june 23, 1947, to howell and norma pearce in mesa, arizona. he had humble roots but was raised by a loving and hardworking mother that told him he could have his own path of the world. our documents established the united states of america as a bastion of liberty and belief. this led russell to a life of success through service to his community, his state, and his country. he first answered the call to serve in 1965 when he joined the arizona national guard during the vietnam conflict. he served honorably until 1972 and joined the maricopa county sheriff's office being sworn as a deputy in 1970. law enforcement was in russell's blood as his ancestor joe pearce had been one of the original arizona ran

jim jordan has no interest or expressed no interest publicly that he even wants the job so even andy biggs has trouble hitting support from the people who don't particularly like mccarthy. at the end of the day, if i were to bet one way or the other, my bet is still with kevin mccarthy but is going to go through a pretty tough process and by the way this is worth noting this is something he's been working on for years. he's courted these people for years. it's been a long project of his, he said a very good job lining up a lot of the more conservative republicans in the caucus to get behind him. but obviously will see to get the number needed. without the 218 you don't get the gavel. jon: i'm asking you to climb into the heads of the reluctance here, what is it about mccarthy that they don't like? >> the concerns are there have been major fights that he has not held fast on, they're not inspired by him by others like jim jordan that leads the freedom caucus in a powerful member on the conservative flank of the party. if 70 like jim jordan, and kevin mccarthy has done such a good job of cou

biggs. biggs. jordan. bilirakis. mccarthy. bishop of georgia. jeffries. bishop of north carolina.arthy. blumenauer. jeffries. blunt roties cheer tear. jeffries. boebert. present. bonamici. jeffries. boston -- bost. bost. mccarthy. bowman. jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. jeffries. brecheen. mccarthy. brown. jeffries. brownley. jeffries. buchanan. mccarthy. buck. buck. bucshon. mccarthy. budzinski. jeffries. burchett. mccarthy. burgess. mccarthy. burlison. mccarthy. bush. jeffries. calvert. mccarthy. cammack. mccarthy. caraveo. jeffries. carbajal. jeffries. cardenas. jeffries. carey. mccarthy. carl. mccarthy. carson. jeffries. carter of georgia. mccarthy. carter of louisiana. jeffries. carter of texas. mccarthy. cartwright. jeffries. casar. jeffries. case. jeffries. casten. jeffries. castor of florida. jeffries. castro of texas. jeffries. chavez did he reamer. mccarthy. cherfilus-mccormick. jeffries. chu. jeffries. cicilline. jeffries. cisco many. mccarthy. clark of massachusetts. jeffries. clarke of new york. jeffries. cleaver. jeffries. cline. mccarthy. cloud. mccarthy. clyburn.

andy biggs voted for jim jordan. bishop of north carolina, an due clyde, bob goode of virginia, one of the most ardent supporters of kevin mccarthy. now we know the universe, 19. that was consistent on the first vote. it is consistent on the second vote. now, we'll see what the actual tally here is. this usually takes 10 or 15 minutes for the house reading clerk to tally everything up, make sure that they have the votes in order and then they announce the official results from this and we'll see if they go to a next vote. we could have other names put in the order here. brett asked a question off the air as to whether or not jim jordan or anybody could potentially withdraw their name from consideration. i've seen other names put in to consideration with speaker votes. colon powell before, jeff sessions, the former republican senator from alabama and attorney general. he's gotten votes. john lewis, the late democratic congressman from georgia. i asked one source that is very good on this information saying a withdrawa

biggs? donalds. bilirakis? mccarthy. bishop of georgia? jefferys. bishop of north carolina? bishop of north carolina? blumenauer? jeffries. blunt rochester? jeffries. boebert? [ inaudible ]. >> order. >> bonamici? jeffries. bost? mccarthy. bowman? jeffries. [ gavel ]. >> the house will be in order. >> boyle of brecheen? hearn. brown? jeffries. mccarthy. buck? mccarthy. bucshon? mccarthy burchett? mccarthy. burgess? mccarthy. burlison? mccarthy. bush? jeffries. carl? mccarthy. carson? jeffries. carter of georgia? mccarthy. carter of louisiana? jeffries. carter of texas? mccarthy. casar? jeffries. case? jeffries. casten? jeffries. castor of florida? jeffries. castro of cicilline? jeffries. ciscomani? mccarthy. clark of massachusetts? jeffries. clarke of new jeffries. clyde? donalds. cohen? jeffries. >> all right. so it seems like the eighth time will not be a charm for kevin mccarthy. i'm katy tur. thanks for joining us. we've been watching the eighth vote for speaker of the house, and right now, we are currently at five dissenting votes, five nonmccarthy votes, from the repub

this is what andy biggs had to say. >> there's other people that should be there and when people talk about those things they forget. >> is there any scenario you would ever though on any ballot where he get your vote. >> i don't think so. cheryl: how do you see this playing out with the vote next week? >> it is hard to say how it'll play out but i will tell you any delay in electing the speaker of the house will delay the republican agenda we are behind probably a month behind, 30 days in determining the chairman of our committee determining the seeds each republican will have to deliver on the promises that we made when we were campaigning, the vast majority of the republican conference support kevin mccarthy we had the bow and conference and we talked about the rules and what we wanted to do as a conference and we all voted on this but i think it's very unfair when i agree i do sometimes with the house freedom caucus like i sympathize on the issues that centrist most care about but the reason kevin mccarthy is a leader of the conference right now, he understands and understood how

congressman andy biggs, republican from the state of arizona joins us now.. >> good to see you, lauren. lauren: we're 16 days into 2023 and we still don't have official figures. what do you expect, congressman? >> i expect them north of 250,000 encounters, which won't include known and unknown got-aways which will exceed 125,000. polices like yuma sector seeing over 1000 people a day flowing through the community of 80,000 people. it is going to keep going up because the policies are incentivizing people to come. we're not enforcing the laws on the books so it is just going to keep growing, lauren. lauren: you know, with he try to have sympathy for some of the migrants that are coming from latin america but if you look at it, congressman, fiscal year 2022 migrants came from over 170 countries and so far, early in fiscal 2023, already 140 countries. this is, anybody can come here. it is easy for them. >> yeah that is exactly right. i can't go down to the border. you can go down to yuma, to any other place, you will find there are different segments n yuma you

andy biggs, he said that he doesn't what chip roy idea of progress is. is stuck in the mud against mccarthy. host: mccarthy spe aot of time on the floor. who isoing the negotiating for him? >> on the floor, we are seeing him in his seat a lot of the time, but there are allies like guy reschenthaler who is to be chief deputy whip talking to members. several of t key mccarthy lieutenants and allies going over to talk to the freedom caucus people. jim jordan had a pretty and mated discussion with chip roy as the house was gaveling in. there are still talks going on. it is not a complete stale mate. host: it has been a little bit different seeing marjorie taylor greene as stalwartupporter as well as jim jordan. >> jim jordan is set to chair the house judiciary committee and mccarthy was mang the point last night he in the past defended the idea to elevate jim jordan against some people who thought it might not be given his pastpposition to mccarthy and what the leadership was doing and a turn for greene said she wasn't sure if mccarthy should be votes and no

votes, more than 12 flipped for andy mccarthy, the others now down to seven, and people like andy biggs, lauren boebert, matt gaetz and others are on an increasingly small island as kevin mccarthy appears to be gaining ground here. i don't think he's got enough to be speaker on the vote based on the absentees, but chad pergram is following that, and a final answer for us soon. a lot has changed between yesterday and this afternoon. >> sandra: and to your point, chad is there, tallying, the magic number is 218, but mccarthy passing -- 217, to that point, 217, mccarthy at 213, jeffries 211. you are looking right now, 14 holdouts, mccarthy gaining support from 14 holdouts. you are looking live at kevin mccarthy on the house floor right now, i mean -- john, these negotiations have been happening for a long time, and it has come down to this moment where he has finally changed the minds of people like scott perry of pennsylvania who was on the program with us yesterday making it very clear that while he was leading the efforts against mccarthy, that he still saw a pathway for him. when he st

that would be one of the last times that he voted for andy biggs. let's just listening very quickly. we know how mr. rosendale voted quick. >> mccarthy? >> schultz. >> jeffries. >> waters. >> jeffries. >> coleman. jeffries. >> kevin mccarthy. >> webster of florida. >> mccarthy. >> winthrop. >> mccarthy. >> westerman. >> mccarthy. >> westerman. >> jeffries. wild. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> williams of georgia. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> williams up new york. >> mccarthy. >> williams of texas. mccarthy. >> wilson of florida. >> jeffries. >> wilson of south carolina. mccarthy. wittman. mccarthy. >> womack. >> kevin mccarthy. >> yarmuth. [applause] >> bret baier, it took a while. here we are, finally kevin mc carthy is the speaker up the house to be elected, if you will . your thoughts on the process. >> apparently we don't have bret . let's go back to chad pergram. >> oh, i'm right here. die apologize. i was looking at the images on the floor. this is the big moment, obviously. it is so opaque that you can se the elation as kept mccarthy hugs all o

there will be probably nine or 10 votes for andy biggs, the republican from arizona. we might have a few other names batted around. the more people vote for someone by name besides kevin mccarthy hurts kevin mccarthy. the other issue, people could vote present. first order of business is the attendance vote. around 1:00, 1:30, go to the first vote for speaker. it will not probably not be the first vote for speaker today. in fact they might do this two or three times today. they might also take a recess. it is up to cheryl johnson this sun trod territory. we've not been in the prosecutor on capitol hill in 100 years, neil. neil: is you about some of alternatives. one is steve scalise. name is always come up. he said he has no interested in the job. donald trump, former president. jim jordan, the ohio republican. that is about it. that is the about only viable list i'm working with here. it is not so viable. for that matter certainly a couple of cases credible but what do you make of it? >> reporter: it is interesting you mentioned donald trump you don't have to be a me

bob: the three from arizona are gosar, claimant and biggs.s far as different states, are you trying to angle for exchanges? it's not a state thing it's more like hey, we need a conservative who will cut spending, take on this white house and do thing that other speakers have not done. there is a reason that speakers have done the way they have done in the past since peaking to pass leadership aids, with paul ryan they said we are going to have a new day, new house. things worked out a little differently. molly: from watching other things related to the arizona republican party over the past 4-8 years, that has been a place where there has been a fair amount of radicalism within the republican party. in that sense, is not surprising to me that it would be a delegation that would generate a couple of these folks who are pretty vocal mccarthy opponents. there is no particular regional connection to their positions. host: we focus a lot on the houses focus on the senate. the house goes into the republican hands, what's this in his priority for th