on slide 8, to break that down, for a typical bilhah, it is the difference between $6.70 at $6.90. we talked about $7 a month, i think that as a lot more accurate for a particular customer. really, the interesting thing here is that the bottom in terms of comparing the program size and the effect on customers is and comparing to what we expect customers would otherwise be paying. the 30 megawatt program as far as their total bill, would go up by 17.5% and 8 20 megawatt program would be about 18%. >> when you say the total bill, is that the total pg&e bill? >> we have jurisdictions for getting a ballpark estimate on that. >> of the savings would be $6.70 for 30 what? -- 30-watt? >> a majority of our customers are low energy usage. the bulk of the customers would see their bill by about $7. >> up from the current pg&e rating? >> correct. >> what is it costing us to increase their rates? >> this is what it costs. our costs -- >> how much total money would we have expended to ensure that a ratepayer will get a second dollar increase? >> we will have spent the $3 million we have spent s