bill adair, founder ofig politifact, he will be here on the program.you may have noticed it's october, the month we named for the roman goddess octomom. obviously, you may not believe it's october because the mets are still playing baseball. [cheers and applause] god, i love them so much! now, in election years, october is when everyone's on alert for an october surprise. it's what they call it when major unexpected news alters the race in the home stretch of the campaign. like the "access hollywood" tape, which, if you remember, destroyed trump's chances of being president. whatever happened to him? but here we are again, in october, so? >> a major port strike could make for an october surprise. >> could the infamous october surprise in this year's election actually be coming from overseas? >> hurricane helene affecting at least two battleground states. this, to me, might be the october surprise. >> is a spike at the pump the october surprise that no one wants? >> jon: why are october surprises always so shitty? why do we never get a good october surp

bill adair, thank you so much for joining us.really appreciate the conversation. >> thank you for having me. >> up next, shark tank airs right here on abc seven tonight. and two local entrepreneurs are being featured. we will hear from the brother and at golf. it's a portable backyard golf game that's customizable every time you want to play. on our midday show today, we talked with tyler and jenny simmons, the sibling duo from marin county, about their invention, our bucket golf. for those who have not heard of it. what is it? how does it work and how did you guys come up with it? >> so bucket golf is a portable par three golf game where it all fits in a bag. you can set up and custom design your course anywhere you want. it's great for people who are good golfers or people who have just never played golf before, but want to try playing. and then the way it kind of all started is we started playing just as like a homemade set from like 6 or 7 different stores and realized how much fun it was. and everyone loved it, and then at t

own fact checkers and show that facts matter whether you're on the right or the left. >> well, bill adairyour sentiment. more fact checking is great. thanks for being here and everybody go out and read bill's new book. it's pretty amazing. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> before we go quickly, a point of personal privilege. i'd like to wish my beautiful daughter charlotte a very happy birthday as she turns ten years old. now she doesn't look like that any more. may be a double digit birth day but she'll always be my little girl. happy birthday to my charlotte. and i also want to thank all of you for joining us today. you can catch me back here next saturday at noon eastern. remember to follow us on social media using the handle. you can catch clips on youtube and you can listen to every episode as a podcast for free. scan that qr code on your screen to follow now. but don't go anywhere. msnbc reports with alex witt is coming up next. coming up next. come on, man. congestion? nah, i'm good. spray goodbye to tough congestion. [scream] you're very talented! [eagle screech]

. >> this is bill adair. the book is beyond the big lie. how it could burn down our democracy.an is in california. republican line. go ahead. >> good morning, gentlemen. i just find it a little ironic that you guys have a book targeting republicans which we are a diverse group of people across religion, we are not all born americans. you are sort of labeling us like that. in the title of your book is the big lie. you open with a 2012 audio cited where you yourself said you lied i mean, i don't know if he had a nondisclosure or an nda, but you have capitalized on a. you are capitalist. i get that. you are selling a book now. i just think that's rich. that is my comment. i don't understand how you can write a book about how people live in the you quote yourself that you lie in that question. >> thank you for that comment. i think you need to look at the opening scene in the greater context of the book. my point was that i think journalists need to talk about this disparity. that is hard for fact checkers in particular, but i do think journalists, and really, the nation, needs to

bill adair, thank you very, very much. >> bill used an important word, gatekeeper. >> yeah. >> john heilemanniles calling around and asking whether he needed to move back along because of the rhetoric he even considered to be toxic. he ended up doing that. he talked to a lot of people inside and outside of fox news, saying, "is this really where we want to go?" so, you know, he, of course, has been portrayed as the king of disinformation by many, but there was an example of, you know, a fox news that even talked to obama. you know, he'd talk to obama. obama would express his concerns, and there was a lot of back and forth. again, i think it's just the complete lack of gatekeepers and the encouragement now at outlets to go further, go further, say more shocking things, lie all you want. it's fine. that brings in more viewers. the more conspiracy theories, the better. >> right. you know, i mean, we're all -- everyone around here basically says we're all ancient, so we remember and cast a warm, nostalgic glow to the era where there were still gatekeepers. back in the day, there were things that

host: our first guest of the morning is bill adair, the founder of political fact and also the author"the epidemic of political line, why republicans do it more, and how is -- our democracy." guest: thanks for having me. host: you start this book with an instance of when you were on the show years ago. we will show the clip, but set that up for us. guest: in many ways, this frames one important part of the book. i was here in 2012, answering questions about our work on the 2012 election, and a caller called in on the democratic line , ryan from michigan. and brian asked, he said he had read in "the nation" that republican live more and live worse, that they had tallied up fact-checks by "politifact" and by the washington post and he wanted to know what i said about that. host: the me pause you there, we will show and then give your response. [video] >> isn't it true that political fact, your nearest competitor had listed in general statements of republican vs. democrat that almost seven out of 10 were given to the republicans? democrats light almost as much, but republicans lied more.

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host: our first guest of the morning is bill adair, >> fist guest is bill ladare and the political line do it more and why do they a burn down the democra. welcome back to the program. you were on the show years ago and we'll show the clip in a bit and set that up for us. speed that up a bit. >> in many ways frames one important part of that. i was here in 2012 and answering questions about our work on the 2012 election. republicans lied more and worse and tallied up with politifact and the washington post and wanted to know whatas i said abt that. >> let's show and we'll get your response to it in 2012. >> isn't it true in the michelan magazine that you're competitor listed in general vasty of statements and republicans versus democrats and almost 7 out of 10 of pants on fire or the heels giving republicans and the democrats and they lied almost as much and isn't that true? >> you know, i can honestly say i don't keep score. >> that's what you said in 2012. fill in the rest of it. >> well, i was lying. we did keep score, and we didn't keep score by party but we kept score and still do

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host: our first guest of the morning is bill adair, the founder of political fact and also the authorof political line, why republicans do it more, and how is -- our democracy." guest: thanks for having me. host: you start this book with an instance of when you were on the show years ago. we will show the clip, but set that up for us. guest: in many ways, this frames one important part of the book. i was here in 2012, answering questions about our work on the 2012 election, and a caller called in on the democratic line , ryan from michigan. and brian asked, he said he had read in "the nation" that republican live more and live worse, that they had tallied up fact-checks by "politifact" and by the washington post and he wanted to know what i said about that. host: the me pause you there, we will show and then give your response. [video] >> isn't it true that political fact, your nearest competitor had listed in general statements of republican vs. democrat that almost seven out of 10 were given to the republicans? democrats light almost as much, but republicans lied more. isn't that tr