see being used in the boss who no rules you motivation a. 2 2 welcome back. technical director, bill binnie, about his experience blowing the whistle on waste free agency bill. a part of the fall out from your revelations was in the confines of the law and of normal. and as a procedure, you were stir any admission of wrong doing on the part of an essay. well, i mean, they have to stick with no other words if they ever admit their line that. so they have to stick with the law. they started. and they said that all the basic governance says it's an outright lie this really in the end and the dnc and all the stuff that they were accusing after flynn and stone was false. and that's why they would let me testify to, you know, it's just that are in people start getting active to do things and fire these idiots. some respect for a constitution rights of individuals and humanity. the 1st of all, we've got a department of just us and you know, we are of the largest most populous newest banana and unfortunately that's the way it is. look at what's coming out there getting so much power. they don't car

i'm john kerry, aka were speaking with former se technical director, bill binnie, about his experience blowing the whistle on waste fraud and abuse at the national security agency. bill, a part of the fallout from your revelations was that even though you had done nothing wrong, nothing illegal. all within the confines of the law and of normal and essay procedure, you were stripped of your security clearance. did you ever get it back? was there ever any admission of wrong doing on the part of an essay? well, i mean, as long as you're perpetuating a lie yet to stick with it. in other words, if they ever admit their line than that the whole house of cards falls and it falls in a major way. so they have to stick with the law. they started and they, they had to keep it going. but i'm, i'm here to say that all the basic governance says it's an outright lie. this was downloaded internally locally in the end and at the n c and all the stuff that they were accusing. others are doing is false. the predicate for going up to flynn and stone was false, and that's why they would let me testify to i

ah william bill binnie was the 4th ranking officer in the national security agency or an essay at the time of the september 11th attacks. as the agencies technical director, he was one of the most highly cleared officers in the entire organization. after the september 11th attacks, the an essay and other national security agencies were scrambling to recover. and at the same time to make the u. s. a safer place. but some of the more cynical leaders at an essay. busy also saw an opportunity, they saw an opportunity to do something in the name of national security that had heretofore been denied to them. it was against the law, and indeed it was against an essays own charter to spy on american cit. we're happy to have bill benny with us today. welcome to the show, bill. bill, you were a very senior, an essay officer when the september 11th attacks occurred. as technical director, you were intimately involved in the creation of thin thread, which was an effective and cost effective technology designed to keep american safe and to disrupt future terrorist attacks. what happened to thin thr

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ah william bill binnie was the 4th ranking officer in the national security agency or an essay at the time of the september 11th attacks. as the agencies technical director, he was one of the most highly cleared officers in the entire organization. after the september 11th attacks, the an essay and other national security agencies were scrambling to recover. and at the same time to make the u. s. a safer place. but some of the more cynical leaders at an essay. busy also saw an opportunity, they saw an opportunity to do something in the name of national security that had heretofore been denied.