bill bratton, former commissioner of the nypd is back with us. bill, i'm just astounded at how much the nomenclature, the procedure of our age has been drilled into young people who should not have to worry at all about this, ideally. >> school was certainly different when we were growing up. >> yes. >> versus what young people today have to be prepared for. you're correct about the remarkable composure that those two young people showed earlier, because even though they were distant from the actual event, the trauma spreads like ripples in a pond and a little later this evening they're going to feel it and that's where the counselors are going to be important, they might not be feeling it in the moment of excitement, and when they go home tonight and they start hearing what the actual count is, and how many injured, when they start hearing the names, friends who have been injured in this. so the after effects of this is almost as catastrophic as the event itself. >> let me talk about specifically his handling, we know so little about him, approx

we'll talk to former nypd police commissioner bill bratton and we'll talk about that and more when webig, big school. you'd have to have 150 real guards. look, they had one guard. he turned out to be not too good. >>> a big, big school. you'd have to have 150 real guards. look, they had one guard. he turned out to be not too good. he was not a credit to law enforcement. he trained his whole life but when it came time to do something, he didn't have the courage and he certainly did a poor job. >> i got to watch some deputy sheriffs performing this weekend. they weren't exactly medal of honor winners. the way they perform was frankly disgusting. >> president trump has been voke -- vocally critical of a sheriff deputy who stayed outside. the lawyer for that officer defended his client saying peterson believed the gunfire was coming from outside the school when we responding. this weekend nbc reported three more deputies from broward county sheriff's office also stayed outside during the shooting. i want to bring in bill bratton, he is these days an msnbc senio law enforcement analyst and

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here in our studio, i'm joined by the former police commissioner of the great city of new york, bill bratton. commissioner bratton, as you've. >> this is an evolving understanding of them and from that evolving understanding, the training that we go into, modifications for police training, modifications for school systems, the idea of when the fire alarm goes off, you effectively leave immediately. notifications systems within the school. there's so much to learn from these, are you better off with locked door environments? or do you still want to have an open campus type of system? there's really no one size fits all answer to this. so since columbine, we have been wrestling with this now for 20-some-odd years, trying to keep in schools our children safe, our teachers safe, quite obviously we're not doing as good a job as we would like. >> for viewers just joining us, and we'll continue our conversation with bill bratton in just a moment, as we approach the top of another hour, the 6:00 p.m. hour in florida and here along the east coast, we're on this picture because that is the sheriff's c

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former nypd commissioner bill bratton. >> we've used this phrase of the new normal, unfortunately, school shootings are becoming much too commonplace, part of the insanity of this country around the issue of guns. >> reporter: some students say the suspect had a preoccupation with guns. >> when i was in the vocational school, alternate school, he went ahead and showed me his layout of guns, said he used to shoot them around for fun. >> he's always been a really crazy kid. i heard him -- i heard some people say one day he would have done this. unfortunately i think that was today. >> reporter: the "mi "miami herald" reports one teacher identified the suspect as a potential threat after he allegedly threatened students last year. >> any time we see a shooter like this, there are always preincident indicators, tell someone, they write about it on the internet or some social network page. we never see an individual just totally act out of the dark. the problem is we don't connect the pieces. we don't put two and two together until the terrible shooting takes place. >> the sheriff has just ide

. >> bill bratton, former new york city police commissioner tweeted today proposals to arm american teachers are the height of lunacy. i'm joined by robert costa, political analyst and greg pittman, a history teacher at stoneman douglas high school. i want to chris grady who was wonderful to be on the show the other day. what do you think of having a teacher with a gun? >> yeah, i've asked a lot of my peers about it. i've spoken to a lot of teachers. and everybody's against it. we know that's not the long-term solution. it's just going to make a lot of kids uncomfortable. and you're asking a teacher top fight with an assault rifle with a handgun. that seems like an unfair fight to me. it's not an ideal solution. >> greg, talk about it. what did you think when you first heard this had notion of packing? when you go into class every morning? >> exactly. we as teachers periodically discuss various issues. this is one we before have discussed and more seriously now. we think it's a very, very, very bad idea. i am a gun owner. i think it's -- it would be very difficult for teachers to go into a c

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bill bratton tweeed, proposals to arm american teachers are the height of lunacy.e also then going to arm school bus drivers, the school crossing guards? the nra would love that. chuck schumer responded not surprised the nra reeled president trump back in. just amazed how fast it happened. and from senator blumenthal, the idea of arming teachers is inane and insane and soundly rejected by the education community despite both the nra and president trump continuing to tout it. >>> and under intense criticism from student survivors, the national rifle association said others are to blame for society's problems. chief executive wayne lapiere and dana lash delivered speeches at the national political action conference. >> legacy media. >> game comey and loretta lynch, the people at think progress, dianne feinstein. >> nancy pelosi, bernie.sanders, camala harris, bill de blasio, andrew como. >> these intellectual leads -- black lives matter -- cory booker, christopher murphy and keith ellison. george soros, michael bloomberg, tom steier. young democratic socialists, carl

talk to bill bratton, talk to ray kelly, talk to anyone who has been in charge of security.they will tell you that aggressive enforcement of gun laws has been a huge reason why this city went from north of 2000 homicides a year to whatever it is, i think under 400, historic lows, not seen since the 1940s or '50s. so, conservatives are supposed to believe in the empirical evidence, here is the empirical evidence. i don't think it is impossible to make the case to sensible americans that far greater restrictions on their so-called gun rights is imperative for public safety. it is an argument we can win. that being said, one of the reasons they succeed is the view like we're here to take your guns. >> right. >> i'm not here to take people's guns. i'm here to simply say guns should be owned by responsible people and there should be high tests -- >> i have to interrupt you. we have some breaking new, brand-new charges filed in the mueller investigation. we're going to take a break. we'll be right back. you may reveal... and the reign continues... oooh. as the earl of sandwich, i

joining us here on set is bill bratton, former n.y.p.d. commissioner, and senior law enforcement analyst. we have been covering this school shooting at the marjorie stow man high school in parkland, florida. a school that houses more than 3,000 high school students. the broward sheriff has confirmed there are 14 victims being transported to two different hospitals in the area, but we also have two government officials. one, the superintendent of the school, and the other one of florida's senators, senator bill nelson, who reported on our air that there are a number of fatalities. we have also seen a suspect. we believe him to be the suspect, but that all unfolds in due time, apprehended and transported in an ambulance. i wonder if you can weigh in on what we've seen today. >> well, unfortunately we are seeing it with much more frequency, the number of school shooting incidents just since the first of the year is astonishing. so, a new normal in some respects. >> oh, god. hope not. >> it is going to require a lot of new training in terms of

this according to bill bratton the former nypd commissioner is another example of how the country seems to have this sick preoccupation with guns. it manifests itself into these really terrible mass shootings. >> we've talked about criminal situations where all it takes is motive and opportunity. that's the questions that are asked in a courtroom. you talked about the possible motive, disenfranchised, anger, a sense of being outside the incrowd, whatever it is. what about the opportunity, open carry state florida. how hard is it to get an ar-15 semi-automatic weapon with multiple magazines, ammunition magazines? how hard is it for a person? is it simply a retail operation, you go in with the cash, you buy it. >> a lot of states do i have open carry laws. let me make clear my comments about the preoccupation with guns pap that's not my view necessarily. that is the view of many in many law enforcement who say in the wrong hands, in the hands of somebody who is unstable, it can become as we have seen time and time again a sick preoccupation. i'm from colorado. i've been around people who

new york loves bill bratton. >> absolutely. >> can you talk about the unique challenges presented byum is full, the world is watching, that i say about a million people are in the city just to experience it, eagles fan, vikings fans are hanging around. >> a few vikings fans, a lot more pats fans. >> how do you secure an event like that? >> several years ago, actually. two years ago they started planning for this and there's three major elements to it, there's communications, the ability for all of them to communicate. a million people will be operating their cell phone. there's the need for crowd management, crowd control and then thirdly there is the transportation issue, moving people around and there's a fourth which is keeping people safe, whether it's concerns for terrorism which fortunately that has not been a major issue. on the communications side, verizon, which is the principal provider out there, has ensured that a million people will be able to snap their photos and do their twitter and that all the communications that are so essential. the minneapolis police department w