bill browder believes it was murder, and is out forjustice.put aside my life as a businessman and i've devoted all of my time, all my energy and all my resources to go after the people who killed sergei. over the last decade, bill browder has tracked the $230 million stolen from the russian people his friend sergei had exposed. it's laid out in meticulous detail in thousands of pages of documents he has shared with spotlight. how confident can we be that what you've got is real? so we've taken the information that we have received through courts, through whistleblowers, through criminal investigations, and we have used it to initiate criminal cases in 16 different countries. and i think five of those countries have submitted these documents in court, and the courts acknowledge them as real and as actionable, and in some cases the money has been seized and apartments and real estate have been seized by different governments, and so this is as real as you are ever going to get. in 2018, he provided a dossier of evidence to the irish authorities.

i'm david ignatius a columnist for the post my guest today is bill browder. who was the founder of hermitage capital one of the biggest investors in russia after the fall of communism. now one of the biggest critics in the world of russian president vladimir putin, mr. brighter has a new book freezing order the true story of money laundering murder and surviving vladimir putin's wrath bill bradder. thank you so much for joining us on washington post live. great to be here. thank you. before we talk about your book. i want to first ask our viewers to join in our conversation if you have questions for bill browder, please tweet them to us at post live and we'll try to select the questions that come in over the next half hour and and put them to our our guest second. i want to ask you to focus before we talk about your book on the war in in ukraine it be interested in your sense of the the battlefield right now as russia launches its second round they failed in their efforts to capture keith. how do you assess this next phase of the war that began this week? wel

but bill browder a fine answer and political activists to expose a multi-million dollar fraud scheme orchestrated by russian officials says russia won't release criner without something in return. all they're doing is trying to figure out. >> which hostages have more value. how do they determine value? they determine how upset the american people get by the hostage taking grounders says russian media has expressed interest in a prisoner exchange involving viktor bout a russian arms dealer known as the merchant of death is in us prison. >> he's responsible for thousands, if not not many more. tens of thousands of deaths with arms that he supplied to different rebels in different regions of the world. >> and even if the u.s. and russia agree to a prisoner swap, rauner says we likely won't even know about it until after it happens in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. back to you. >> now to southern california where jurors have found the man accused of killing rapper nipsey hussle guilty a first-degree murder. that man, 32 year-old eric holder junior so had known each other for years when

it at the like we talked about before they are certainly very a smart knowledgeable peope like bill browder and gary kasparov my friend the chess champion who problem with sanctions is they were. they did not do nearly enough. you should have taken everything away. let you know part of the reason they might not have done that if it was the hope are the feared they were more extreme in their sanctions they would have put putin in a corner much more quickly. it's a very delicate situation and you can't have enough sanctions. >> it is and i agree with that concern. i do think people set up couldn't be cut off. of course it could. it was called the soviet union and that was cut off from the american economy. the difference is this is a the 1970s and people in russia are used to transactions and goods markets and financial markets acrosspr these had to put up pressure from broad sanctions. guest absolutely. president xi has tremendous power and putin has tremendous power and henry kissinger wrote this piece maybe a couple of years ago arguing that it's become harder tor overthrow dictators becau

but we can talk about before there are certainly very smart and knowledgeable people i think of bill browder who wrote red notice and gary kasbroff my friend. who's the former rochester who've argued the problem with the sanctions in 2014 was they were half baked you did not do nearly enough. you should have taken everything away. um, but that you know, i got i guess that part of the reason they might not have done. that was the hope of it where the fear that if they were more extreme in their sanctions. they would have put putin into a corner much more quickly. i mean, it's a it's a very delicate game politically in the west. you just can't have enough sanctions and yet it is. how do we play this? it is and i i agree with that concern but i do think there's some hope and it's this. when people say russia couldn't live cut off, of course, it could it was called the soviet union that was cut off from the modern economy for very long time. the difference is this isn't 1970 and a lot of people in russia are used to transactions in goods markets and ideas in financial markets the cross boundarie

but bill browder a fine answer and political activists to expose a multimillion dollar fraud scheme orchestrated by russian officials says russia won't release criner without something in return. all they're doing is trying to figure out. >> which hostages have more value. how do they determine value? they determine how upset the american people get by the hostage taking grounders says russian media has expressed interest in a prisoner exchange involving viktor bout a russian arms dealer known as the merchant of death is in us prison. >> he's responsible for thousands, if not not many more. tens of thousands of deaths with arms that he supplied to different rebels in different regions of the world in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. >> coming up neft, a relief for families in ukraine. how one woman from orinda made a very personal journey to help the victims of that war torn region. and clouds moving in here. we've got storm clouds churning in the pacific. bonnie continues out there now. we'll take a look at that near 10 coming up next. big tobacco's cigarette butts filter practically nothing and

but bill browder a fine answer and political activists to expose a multi-million dollar fraud schemehout something in return. all they're doing is trying to figure out. >> which hostages have more value. how do they determine value? they determine how upset the american people get by the hostage taking grounders says russian media has expressed interest in a prisoner exchange involving viktor bout a russian arms dealer known as the merchant of death is in us prison. >> he's responsible for thousands, if not not many more. tens of thousands of deaths with arms that he supplied to different rebels in different regions of the world in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. >> closer to home san francisco's emblem until tang has announced the 30 million dollar grant to help stop crimes against the ap. i community that money will mean greater services for victims. more senior escort programs, mental health programs and additional activities to promote greater cultural understanding the asian american legislative caucus will also use that money to fight anti-asian hate crimes over the next 3 year