it didn't matter if you are a conservative against them, as bill buckley. he didn't mind. bring it on. let's talk about it. always willing to present his position. he understood it wasn't about him. it was about this cause called america. for.is what he fought the question is, how do we get leaders like ronald reagan. they said he was such a great president, how do we look to someone like that? my point is, he was not perceived as a great president by the mass number of people in this country. there is a movement and he is a beloved figure among but the media and the party establishment said he was not the candidate of their choice. and there was a lot of concern for him to become president of the united states and how he would perform. some people felt he would be pressing the button at every opportunity. he became a truly great president. a man who believes something, who was bold, he has the courage of his convictions. he took over office of the cy.sident' that is what made him a great president. we don't know who will be the next ronald reagan. they have to take office

it was actually bill buckley, a human events idea of bill buckley's in the '50s and '60s, and they were able to seriously influence the world with their journalism opinion. however, they were still apining on facts that had been uncovered largely by liberal institutions like "the new york times" or the "washington post." they were still just dealing with the facts that were given to them by people whose bias starts just like all of our biases as humans, starts when they wake up in the morning with how they choose to dress. maybe -- it's not because you hatred socks that you choose blue socks. it's just that that's what you did. or watch stories you choose to cover. a lot of pieces say, point to the bias in this piece. maybe you can't find bias in that piece, but why was that story chosen and another one neglected? that's one of the tyrannies of bias. but instead of complaining, just rule the medium. own talk radio. own the internet. have newspapers. start conservative newspapers. actually, probably not printed, because you can probably just wait for the other ones to die, which is slowl

it was actually bill buckley a human events idea and bill buckley in the '50s and '60s and they were able to seriously flu influence the world with their journalism opinion. but they were opining on facts that had been uncovered largely by liberal institutions like "the new york times" or "the washington post." they were still just dealing with the facts given to them by people who -- whose bias starts when they wake up in the morning with how they choose to dress. it's not because you hate red socks because you choose blue socks it's what you did or what stories you choose to cover. a lot of people say point to the bias in this piece. maybe you can't find bias in that piece but why was that story chosen and another one neglected? that's one of the tyrannies of bias. but instead of complaining just rule the medium. own talk radio. own the internet. have newspapers. start conservative newspapers actually probably not presented because you can probably wait for the other ones to die which is slowly happening except the vanity project ones. now, i remember when i was getting started in

i'm a russell kirk, bill buckley guy, and you and i discussed this before, lou, and i don't see thatuys have done anything conservative over the last decade or two, and so they've hijacked the term, and they expect everybody to think that what they do is true conservatism. it's not close. lou: i don't know about you, sam, nothing makes me laugh much harder than people explaining to me and to america how paul ryan and mitt romney are the appropriate arbiters of who is and who is not a conservative. i mean, it's hilarious. >> it's hilarious and it's nonsense, what i think has happened is a lot of times and i'll put the media into this as well. three things you do in a campaign. one is you raise money and starting to do that process, the second you get votes and we've been very successful in doing that. and the third is you have to educate the voting public. one of the things we're doing now is exposing a lot of the people out here inside washington, inside the media establishment, inside the donor class, inside a lot of other areas for what they really are. this is what they are. there

bill buckley's not mentioned who had profound effect on the american conservative movement and phyllis schlafly. so i'm just wondering why -- did you consider those three or building out those more? >> no. there are lots of people, i mean, that you could say -- the most frequent mention on front that i get why didn't you include are people like steve jobs, right? >> yeah, sure. >> people like zuckerberg with facebook. >> right. >> the technological people. >> right. >> but, again, i think -- technology is a huge change in the way we live. you can imagine the founding fathers being stunned at things like facebook or twitter coming from politicians in the middle of the night. they'd be like, wow, we don't know anything about this. but i don't think that they would have said, oh, we don't expect that 240, a 250 years later that there won't be tech lodging call development. and -- tech technological development. >> well, they were all groomed in the age of enlightenment, so there were developments -- >> printing. >> exactly. in terms of writing. they at least had an understanding there was

but bill buckley, founder of young americans for freedom, one of the original conservative journalists and one of the most successful -- he founded national review in '55, young american freedom in 1960, conservative party of new york in i think '64, right after barry goldwater got his butt kicked, ran for mayor of new york, a very liberal place. when asked what the first thing he would do in office was, he said i'd demand a recount. he founded firing line, one of the longest syndicated talk shows ever and is celebrating its 50th anniversary next week? i don't know, silver? what's silver? silver anniversary. he wrote 50 books. hundreds of columns, wrote for newspapers all over the world. unfortunately, you're not bill. none of us are bill. so we can't just rely on his strengths. so we need to focus on our lead. the top sentence. and choose carefully the words that we use. so this is an example of a buckley lead. now, that's one . it's like a swirling maze. he wrote in the united kingdom style of essay writing. you start with this but this but this but this but oh. you can't do that. un

and it didn't matter if you are a conservative against him, as bill buckley was -- would go up and debate against him on a couple of issues. he didn't mind. bring it on. let's talk about it and get it out there. always willing to present his position. because he understood it wasn't about him. it was about this cause called america. and that is what he fought for. so the question is, how do we get leaders like a ronald reagan? and when they said he was such a great president, how do we look to see -- to someone like that. my point was this, he wasn't perceived as going to be this great president by the mass number of people in this country. sure, there was a movement in the country who -- he was a beloved figure, but the media and the party establishment, he was not the candidate of their choice. and there was a lot of concern for him to become president of the united states and how he would perform. some people felt he would just be pressing the button at every opportunity, bombing people he didn't like. all right? and he became a truly great president. a man who believed something, who

and it didn't matter if you are a conservative against him, as bill buckley was -- would go up and debate against him on a couple of issues. he didn't mind. bring it on. let's talk about it and get it out there. always willing to present his position. because he understood it wasn't about him. it was about this cause called america. and that is what he fought for. so the question is, how do we get leaders like a ronald reagan? and when they said he was such a great president, how do we look to see -- to someone like that. my point was this, he wasn't perceived as going to be this great president by the mass number of people in this country. sure, there was a movement in the country who -- he was beloved as a figure. but the media and the party establishment, he was not the candidate of their choice. and there was a lot of concern for him to become president of the united states. and how he would perform. some people felt he would just be pressing the button at every opportunity, bombing people he didn't like, all right. and he became a truly great president. a man who believed something,

but bill buckley, founder of young americans for freedom, one of the original conservative journalists and one of the most successful, he founded national review in 1955, young american freedom in conservative party of 1960, new york in right after 1964, barry goldwater got his butt kicked, ran for mayor of new york, a very liberal place. when asked what the first thing he would do in office was, he said i'd demand a recount. he founded firing line, one of the longest syndicated talk -- political talk shows ever and , is celebrating its 50th anniversary next week? silver? what is silver? silver anniversary. in his spare time he wrote 50 books. hundreds of columns, wrote for newspapers all over the world. unfortunately, you're not bill. none of us are bill. so we can't just rely on his strengths. so we need to focus on our lead. the top sentence. and choose carefully the words that we use. so this is an example of a buckley lead. now, that is one paragraph. it's like a swirling maze. he wrote in the united kingdom style of essay writing. you start here with this, but this, but this, but