populist movement which has very little in common with the kd of conservative ideas that folks like bill buckleyhampioned in the past. >> are there any ideas that are sort of inherently conservative and consistent with those buckley ideas that are worth defending now? >> well, of course. i mean, i still believe in a lot of the basic principles of conservatism, of preserving individual liberty, fighting for the american role in the world, standing up for free trade, smaller government at home. >> why not stay in the movement and sort of fight from it from within? >> well, i'm fighting for those principles. i don't necessarily need to be part of a broad movement, because i don't think there's much of a movement to be part of. i mean, you're talking -- you know, you're really talking never-trump conservatives, and, you know, as i like to say, there's enough of us for a dinner party, not a political party. >> is it your view -- and i ask you this because you have a very personal tie to soviet russia. is it possible that it was the unraveling and the fall of the soviet union that actually was the beg

this is the belief bill buckley calls the eschaton the final things are the final days and each generation imagines their vision whether railroads or spaceflight or artificial intelligence is the final attainment. and really this is what socialism is about that what we have now is all we w will get we know as much as we need to know to plan the entire future and that is fundamentallyly fundamental to human creativity. >> so this google marxism cuts across all the platforms? facebook or twitter what about silicon valley? you reference that? . >> there are a lot of philosophers and when they pronounce these issues they imagine the technology is ultimate and actually usurps human minds. my friend introduced the concept of the singularity the moment when computer exceeds human minds on all dimensions. at that point the technology produces new machines with a cascade that leaves humans far behind. that is not parsable one - - possible because artificial intelligence is a machine. if machines surprise you they are breaking down. they are deterministic by definitionfi so with the information theo

and this is a belief that bill buckley used to call imminentizing the eskaton, final things, final days, and each generation of technologies imagine their technological vision, whether it's railroads or spaceflight or artificial intelligence is the final attainment, and this is really what socialism is about. it's about saying that what we have now is all we're going to get, that we know as much as we need to know to plan the entire future, and that is fundamentally hostile to human creativity. mark: this mind-set, this google marxism, it cuts across all these platforms or does it? facebook, twitter, how about the silicon valley? you've referenced that in the past as, i think, silicon valley marxism, isn't that right? >> there are a lot of philosophers and philosopher kings in silicon valley. and when they pronounce on public issues, they imagine that their technology is an escatton, an ultimate thing and usurps human minds. my friend ray kerswhile introduced the concept of singularity, the moment when our computer technology would exceed human minds on all dimensions, and at that point

. >> understanding the conservative movement and having read bill buckley and things like that. is nod ideological, he's common sense businessman and one of the points in the book is he addresses -- he sort of brought business principles to the white house and fortunately those are kind of common sense principles, get taxes down, get government off to back of business, reduce regulation that is we don't need but he's also, you know, he also is very proworker. i mean, that's one thing people don't -- people care about rich people and so on, every conversation that larry kudlow would have with him on the campaign. okay, we would suggest policy, how is that going to help the steel worker in pennsylvania or the coal minor in west virginia or auto worker in flint, mitch geant. he knows who brought him to this dance and he's very hyperconcern. paul: i would argue that reagan cared about those people, deeply about those people. >> right. paul: two big places where i see a difference with most conventional conservative economists would be trade and immigration because most conservative

we are bill buckley, william buckley's successors.ll about we stand for reducing the national debt. we stand for a balanced budget. we stand for things that are good for america, not dividing america or appealing to our lower instincts. and if you look at a lot of the ronald reagan videos, they were uniting the country. he was a true conservative. but the words ronald reagan don't come out of this president's lips, obviously. it's a bad time -- >> stay with me. i want to go back to you. i wanted to hear you first. you're so central to this. stay with me. i want to add to our conversation two historical scholars. presidential historian doris kearns goodwin. i want to mention her book. leadership in turbulent times. it looks at four different iconic president ands how they led. let's start there, doris. you hear al say this is donald trump and a lot of other people going along with it, turning not only on american values, but what he considers conservative values. >> what one have hoped about uniting the country as a whole instead of di

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