barry goldwater and bill buckley and falwell. at the national level longer than everybody except for doctor lee edwards so he's a dear friend i've known since 1961 and he called me on l the phone one day and said i'm having lunch with a young conservative. so we had lunch at the hotel and saw it went so well we invited him back into ten days later just he and i and he said i spoke magic words to him that i want him to come work with me and help me build the conservative movement and he said atng that point i gave hima little pay increase, but anyway after some years he left and ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house and then after that he left and started something called the leadership institute and almost no organization i can think of that's more important than the leadership institute the trains well over a quarter of a million young people, many governors, senators,ro congressmen, legislators over the years. right now as we speak, i'm chairman of the company and they are in jerusalem with other national conser

so you want somebody that occasionally gives in and you have a conversation with a and i bill buckley famously said he was a conservative, but not of the breed on saturday night, he's hanging out. john gilbert, truman capote, etc. . i am of the breed. i'm a my faith catholic. and as long as most catholics have been going to mass, they're not quite sure. when you stand up, when you kneel down, whatever. i can sit in the front row. i know, i know. at any conservative meeting to applaud when i am one with the audience and that makes a huge difference. i'm a i'm a true believer. many of your letters and those of us who have been involved in the media or politics over the years have received these and they're often one line paragraphs and then three or four pages, and they repeat. what's the effect that. the one of the many reasons why like direct mail is don't have to guess does this work for that work because we take a million letters and we split it and have 500,000 get this appeal, the short paragraphs and 500,000 get the long paragraphs and it's been tested billions and billions of le

i grew up listening to people like thomas sowell, milton freedman, bill buckley, so many others in thatld there's a dearth of those kind of people today but one of the people who i respect and i view was douglas mary, he is obviously a fox news contributor and book on the west and is an associate editor in the spectator national review institute senior fellow, i want to talk to today about what's happening to our country i saw you debating what it is reprobates long ago it was on piers morgan show. we actually have individuals in our country through our media throughout our democrat party, throughout much of our culture who in my view take the side of genocidal terrorist during the most atrocious and horrific things to fellow human beings and we see these people in our own country during the greatest country in the face of the earth and they are given tv time and radio time and they're doing all kinds of time as if there point is legitimate. what do you make of that. >> you're absolutely right, obviously i'm from britain originally and i spent most of my time in america these days all t

mp for stirling, sir william bill cash and human rights campaigner and activist peter tatchell , and the former labour tatchell, and the former labour adviser mike buckley let me come to you first because you've tabled some of these amendments. you've drafted them. what is the fundamental principle that you're trying to get across? >> well, to stop disruptive, unnecessary and unreasonable claims. that's the key issue. um, it is perfectly true that there are certain , uh, there are certain, uh, difficulties which would arise where mental condition of individual claimants were involved or in flight problems as a result of people having diabetes or things like that. thatis diabetes or things like that. that is okay. and that would be allowed. the real problem is the vexatious and frivolous and sometimes positively ingenious claims that get made by the, uh, well paid lawyers to try to stop the people from being taken off the people from being taken off the planes, but who fundamentally should decide, should it be decided by a european court? >> according to well thought through international law ? or through international law? or should it be chosen in robi

mp for stirling, sir william bill cash and human rights campaigner and activist peter tatchell , and the former labour tatchell, and the former labour adviser mike buckley let me come to you first because you've tabled some of these amendments. you've drafted them. what is the fundamental principle that you're trying to get across? >> well, to stop disruptive, unnecessary and unreasonable claims. that's the key issue. um, it is perfectly true that there are certain , uh, there are certain, uh, difficulties which would arise where mental condition of individual claimants were involved or in flight problems as a result of people having diabetes or things like that. thatis diabetes or things like that. that is okay. and that would be allowed. the real problem is the vexatious and frivolous and sometimes positively ingenious claims that get made by the, uh, well paid lawyers to try to stop the people from being taken off the people from being taken off the planes, but who fundamentally should decide, should it be decided by a european court? >> according to well thought through international law ? or through international law? or should it be chosen in robi