he didn't need to talk to bill bulger. jackie dr. white. >> billy, billy ran it from the statehouse and whitey ran it on the street, and effectively as a metaphor. and if you just tell billy to your set out yet no income and if you -- put you in a nice job at the nga or whatever. but the point being that it's kind of interesting is, the prosecution because, can you imagine the nuggets they're going to fall out of that? i mean, bill wells was a realize, george, nobody talks much and. spent we've got to get to some questions. i don't think you like bill wells. [laughter] >> i just saw him. but the point being is that, i guess my question is, will billy ever be prosecuted or the think they will ever, having nothing to do with his brother, whitey, but on his own? >> is a chapter in trenton -- [inaudible] there was reprisal legislation that targeted state police commander who was after why the end would've forced him to retire or take a reduction. bills position has always been he had nothing to do with that. he doesn't know where it came

it was very strongly carried out by both bill caldwell and dan bulger in nato training mission in afghanistan. the concept of giving the afghans some capacity to capitalize on the program training environment, in which the soldiers and police were entering the service to give them some capacity initially to read and write and to make their numbers at a first grade level with the idea of being able to take that out to the third grade level over time. today over half the ansf has the capacity to read and write to a first grade level and we intend ultimately i know joe dunford will continue this process to continue, to not just emphasize the continuation of that program at the basic or entry level but to continue -- to emphasize the continued learning of the afghan soldiers and police throughout the period of time in their enlistment, so that this becomes not just an initiative which is useful for military or police operations, it's an initiative that has the poem to change society -- potential to change society in many respects. when you have that many folks returning to their villages after su

bulger. but they didn't need to talk to bill, they got jackie talking. >> billy ran at from the state house and whitey ran at on the streets, and very effectively as a matter of fact, and if you passed off billy you were shot off and basically had no income and if you applied to him then he put you in a nice job or whatever. but the point being that it's interesting with the prosecution because can you imagine the nuggets that are going to fall out of that? bill was and realized -- nobody talks about him. as the mccuish got to get to some questions i think. >> sorry. [laughter] the point being i guess my question is well billy ever be prosecuted or do you think, not having anything to with his brother whitey but on his own? >> there is a chapter on whitey on the testimony before congress that is highly questionable. there is reprisal legislation that targeted a state police commander who was after whitey that would have forced him to retire and take a reduction in pay. bill's position has always been that he had nothing to do with it because he doesn't know where it came from and there was none