joining me now, bill burton, former deputy white house press secretary for president and krystal ballwere there to witness it firsthand. what was it like for the white house to try to work with eric cantor? >> very difficult. let me say two quick things. number one, we've got a lot of time to talk about eric cantor, but i will say, he had a lot of people working for him who came to washington, driven by a purpose they thought they were trying to achieve and i feel bad for my buddies, i wish them all the best, but working with eric cantor was never an easy thing. i was in the room, this has been reported before, but i was in the roosevelt room when the president brought in congressional leadership early on in his presidency and eric cantor was going on and on about how the stimulus wasn't going to work, all these different things and the president looked him square in the eye and said, elections have consequences and eric cantor never really wanted to believe that and last night we had an election where he's truly going to be living the consequence. >> let's talk, krystal, about presid

chair john burton has responded telling norquist in this letter, quote, i fondly remember him signing the largest tax increase in the more than 100-year history of our state and signing the bill that liberalized abortion to therapeutic abortion acts. are these claims right? reagan wasn't really a true conservative? >> norquist and john burton are partly right but partly wrong, as well. what they're doing is using history to suit their current political agenda. >> first, let's get to the facts. as reagan biographer and u.s. history professor points out, yes, reagan did sign the abortion act in 1967. in that year, there were 518 legal abortions in california. in 1968, the number jumped to 5,018, then up to 15,000 the next year and by 1970, it was up to 65,000, but he says that doesn't tell the context. >> reagan came to regret that. he came to regret he passed that law later on. >> secondly, the moral majority led by jerry folwell was not a key element of the republican party when reagan did that in the 1960s. >> former reagan senior policy adviser bruce bartlett wrote in an article called reagan's forgotten tax record that reagan's 1967 $1 billion tax increase took up a third

bill, live long and prosper. >> i don't know what that tha means. i'm sure it's nice. >> here now is watters.ce. so lavar burtonounce the name. he was star trek next generation. >> was hehe an alien? >> he was a human mid to? >> so we don't really know, but he was in it a lot, right? >> yes. >> we had him on a couple weeks ago. he has he on three or four times. always a respectful conversation. but he doesn't like me he said you were derisk, dismissive, insulting patronizing and condescending. >> wow.cend >> long list. >> all ins one interview. you guys were talking about race and zimmerman, i think at the end he perceived that you were giving him homework h assignment. when, in fact, you actuallywh said do a little research it looks like young black malesack disproportionately commit crime per sebaali damage of the rest of the population. >> that's true. >> he was very very insulted. he actually wass physically ill when i asked him thaty il question. question. >> physically ill. >> and you're cut from the same cloth as your boss. >> that seems like a semi racist statement. >>> i don't take it that way. >> le v

right underneath that bill palm tree, a popular place for immigrants to cross into the united states. on our way to the riverside club jeff burton across a couple of women who had crossed the river early this morning. they were waiting for the border patrol to pick them up because they know they will be able to stay in the united states for at least a time. yesterday we found about a dozen illegal immigrants who have been processed by customs and border protection. they had been given noticed to appear before an immigration and a bus ticket to anywhere in the united states where they might have relatives. the border patrol is overwhelmed by this. pictures that were given to us by texas congressmen's office, i spoke with him after he took the tour. he says he believes many of the family units and unaccompanied children who came to this country are probably here to stay. >> if you are a pregnant woman or family unit they will give you a piece of paper where you promise to show up in -- in 90 days. they won't snoip 90 days no way. he says the overcrowding at eased at least a little at that one station. martha: the feeling if they g