glad that c-span book tv is here to film this event and introducing eric this evening is dona and bill bynum, they are instrumental in setting this event and are tireless advocating for getting eric's story out there. we will give them a warm welcome, please. [applause] >> thank you all so much for coming at our invitation tonight. we are thrilled to have eric visit with us and we are calling it his first visit. i think he said use both, is that better? you hold that one. >> both. >> one is for camera. >> okay. well, as i said, we are thrilled to have eric here visiting with us and i hope this is just his first visit. bill and i are lucky enough to be board members of the aspen institution and that's how we got to know eric and his leadership there. he is -- would you call him the number two person? really the number one person. >> i would say that. i've had the privilege of knowing eric for about 20 years. we were henry brown fellows and aspen institution has recently gone through a transition of leadership, wallter, stepped down as president of institute and eric got process with diplomacy