a billionaire child rapist who was friends with bill clinton donald trump and prints. andrew as child rapist. was in prison awaiting trial recently when he was taken off suicide watch his roommate was removed the 2 guards watching him simultaneously fell asleep and multiple cameras that film that area of the jail simultaneously stopped working during that brief window during that window he then hanged himself in such a way that he broke bones that only break during a homicide. i was acting like this is i go see all. christians look prison guards are known to sleep together ok and i don't mean sacks i don't mean sacks i mean literally nap together coddling sweetly in each other's arms like newborn kittens. anyway famed pathologist and longtime new york city chief medical examiner dr michael bad in has been reviewed all of ale of all evidence and says jeffrey abstains death was likely a homicide not a suicide i was planning on going through the list of people who may have wanted to kill him but unfortunately. it's a little long. just email me and i'll send the boxes this

now this is the third impeachment inquiry over the last 45 years, with richard nixon, bill clinton, and now donald trump. host: the political system has weaponized impeachment. impeachment has become a political tool, and that has become a problem, a huge problem. what are we going to do next as a people? are we going to destroy ourselves? because khrushchev once said, we will bury you. not mean he directly. he meant we would destroy ourselves, and we are destroying ourselves. host: take a look at "the wall street journal" editorial, because they conclude that. telling the caller to get a life. politico.com, the white house trying to protect calm -- trying to project calm even as the gop launches a counteroffensive. that is the headline. within the white house on wednesday, quickly settling on biggest sin of democrats as they -- they were boring. president trump said he was not even watching, too busy with other important work. onice is keeping an eye muted tv's, but they dismissed the landmark events as a tedious affair. was belied -- the attempt to project calm within the west wing was belied througho

andrew johnson, richard 96, bill clinton. donald j. trump joined that list.significance of the moment itself. those two buildings you see there, which have seen and made and embody so much history between them

andrew johnson, richard 96, bill clinton. donald j. trump joined that list. there's no overstating the significance of the moment itself. those two buildings you see there, which have seen and made and embody so much history between them, are about to make more. what happened today in one chamber of the bigger of the two has set the stage for so much yet to come. tonight we will of course bring you reporting on the testimony today of a former senior white house official who, despite saying he did not believe what he saw was illegal, did not dispute the problematic effect so far acting to the picture of a president using the power of his office to extract personal political assistance from a foreign government. we'll bring you the latest on two court hearings which could decide when or whether certain other key witnesses will testify. because this is primarily a political battle, we'll speak to the president's former chief strategist steve bannon. we begin with this remarkable historic moment. >> on this vote, the yeas are 232. the nays are 196. the resolution

when you take a look at these faced this possibility, david gregory, andrew johnson, bill clinton, now donald trump sees that list, he's not probably very happy to be included in that list right now. >> no, he's not. and, you know, he has put himself in the position of seeing this only one way. and in a purely political context in a way to seek to delegitimize him and to separate it from any abusive behavior. there's so many interesting themes today. one of which we heard moments ago from nancy pelosi. the speaker of the house, who is making a larger argument about an assertion this president has made. the power vested in the executive is nearly absolute. that he can do almost anything he wants. that he can obstruct this investigation. this is a larger argument being made by democrats than just about this presidency and this president. and at the same time, republicans are going to be making an argument to say, look, this is so close to an election. why not let the people decide in the election? and to insulate the president from this conduct. and i come back to something i felt for a while which i

bill clinton is advising donald trump tonight, asking him to leave the impeachment fight to his staff and instead focus on his agenda, although you can argue the rally in louisiana's a focus of that. more words of advice from unlikely sources. shannon: great to have you tonight, donald trump, the clinton dynasty and what he calls a perfect obama -- adding he wouldn't need any help to beat joe biden but what about the newest candidate jumped into the race, from former president obama's inner circle. trace gallagher reports on another edition to the field. >> reporter: what a difference a year makes. last december duval patrick about out of the 2020 presidential race citing the cruelty of the election process and his wife's cancer diagnosis was the process may still be cruel but his wife is healthy so the former massachusetts governor is back and saying he respects the current 2020 contenders even calling elizabeth warren a friend but he has doubts about the big government policies of warren and bernie sanders. instead of medicare for all patrick supports a public option. instead of a t

things i believed before donald trump came along, including things like the importance of character which is what republicans were saying when they were impeaching bill clinton. and now all the sudden when it's donald trump who is a thousand times worse than bill clinton ever was, character no longer seems to matter to republicans. so i think it's just dismay be to see how few republicans have maintained any degree of consistency in this trump presidency. >> max boot, i appreciate your perspective. thank you so much for being here. >>> breaking news, new escalation in president trump's back and forth with the navy's top brass over ousting a navy s.e.a.l. with "the new york times" reporting top military officials are threatening to resign. >>> president trump's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, says he isn't afraid of getting indicted. why? in his own words, he has insurance. you're live in the cnn newsroom. so what are you working on? >>i'm searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time. wasted time is wasted opportunity. >>exactly. that's why td ameritrade designed a first-of-its-kind, personalized education center. see

bill clinton. i see you and i see bill. against donald trumpll and realize they could lose their private insurance, it drops dramatically. i think only 20% of democrats are for it. we're worried about medical care and we're confusing people. it's problematic. if you look at what happened this week, dana, in virginia and kentucky. why did we win in those two states? it's the issue of health care. that is an issue that people support the democrats on, and we shouldn't give it away and confuse folks. i don't like this warren-biden fight going on, either. >> i'm going to ask you about that in a second, but if elizabeth warren was here, she would say she's got a clear plan now that would help people in their health care costs. >> like i said, democrats don't like the idea they lose their private insurance. that's what these campaigns are all about. she's very substantive. trump doesn't get asked substantive questions. it's a big thing to move it to the next level. i come back to the point we better focus on what people are concerned about every day,

which donald trump points to. 44-45. 70% poll last week said what donald trump did with ukraine was wrong. the difference between clinton and trump in 98 democrats basically said what bill clinton was not right. it was bad. but it wasn't impeachable. republicans can't bring themselves to say what donald trump did by putting the arm on a leader to investigate his political enemy was even wrong. 70% disagree. >> tucker: do you think it's a little weird that here you have joe biden's ne'er do well son using his father's position to make a million dollars a year that business he knows nothing about. trump is being impeached for asking about it. do you think that's a little bit weird? is it your classic case of sort of missing the thread in washington? there is open corruption and the guy who points it out is punished. [laughter] >> good thing about having these transcripts out is he didn't mention the word corruption once. and he didn't want an investigation. >> tucker: that's what i'm calling it? >> he wanted a simple announcement. this is what a reality tv star does. he doesn't care about the substance. he wanted something announced not actually done. >> tucker: since we

presence of both parties especially those with forceful personalities and bill clinton had a forceful personality. so does donald trump that they are daily presentation to the country really permeates the culture in ways that i say we'll see for some s sometime. >> of course is the fourth time that this house of representatives has taken on the impeachment process. johnson, but it didn't happen. nixon resigned before there was mud in theor house by the second time that was with bill clinton as you mentioned in december of 1998 after the house voted on impeachment is what he told his orders from the rose garden. syria on it echo something mr. gephardtdt said. it is something i have felt strongly all my life. we must stop the politics of personal destruction. [applause] we must get rid of the poisonousri venom of excesse partisanship and obsessive animosity and uncontrolled ang anger. that is not what america deserves. that is not what america is about. we are doing will now. we are a good decent country. we have significant challenges and we have to face. in order to do it right, we have to have some atmosphere of dece

just lik bill clinton wante the 1988 impeachment to be public, so does donald trump want this to remainarsan. so the argument about the proces may go away to some extent but republicans want to to be us vs. them. robert: is it going to drag into the ele eion year?rt peter: it already has. the presirent has three rallies in this next week alone. that's the problem of not having a war room. clinton was part of the white use that didn't focus on it. in this white house, the president would be the guyad g the war room. >> and if it does drag into an actual election year 2020, that's going to be b pblem for six cdidates in this large democratic field. t re is a senate trial that lasts for weeks in january or february, those are very important days that instead of beinginut campaigning in iowa or new hampshire, they're going to have to be sitting in their seats for this hours every single d tt can't speak on the senate floor and that is not what any candidate wants toe doin in ar. election y robert: that's on the horizon of current and former trump sion administration officials who testified this

bill clinton. had been a pal of donald trump.cles and had earlier gotten a light sentence in florida. people knew who damn well who jeffrey epstein was. >> martha: virginia roberts saying she was shocked they didn't air it because she believed it could be a game changer not to mention that a lot of people have been trying to interview her over the last several years. we have as well. wanting to be able to get her to come out and tell her very powerful story. "the miami herald" did an investigative piece in 2018 after this interview was done so obviously they would have been ahead of the game had they gone with this story, howie. >> right. they forfeited all the benefit of time and being out in front journalistically but i spoke late today, martha, to a senior abc news executive who says a couple of things. one, amy robach doesn't know all the facts. secondly, this executive told me that the network was going to broadcast virginia roberts' allegation against bill clinton and prince andrew, both of whom have denied any involvement

jeffrey epstein has counted presidents donald trump and bill clinton among his friends. trump told "new york magazine" in 2002 -- "i've known jeff for 15 years. terrific guy. he's a lot of fun to be with. it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as i do, and many of them are on the younunger side." and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we begin today's show in colombia, where hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets thursday in the largest national strike colombia has seen i in years. labor unions, students, teachers, indigenous and afro-colombian activists joined in peaceful marches across urban and rural colombia as anger mounts against right-wing president ivan duque and his cabinet. their peaceful movement was met with police repression and tear gas in bogota, cali, and medellin. in bogota, riot police fired tear gas at protesters who blocked major transportation routes. others gathered in bogota's historic simon bolivar plaza, singing the national anthem in un

shifte are underrated big shifts going on underneath the stability, west virginia bill clinton carried by 13-point donald trump curated by 50, nevada has gone from a state that was seen that they had a continuous hold on in the 80s and 90s, texas, i think this shifts there are the real deal. but these realignments are not the realignment that you learned about in undergrad, the more localized or regional. >> a question in the back? >> should we draw any different from the fact that the parties are themselves less popular and independent who people say none of the above are increasing inum number? >> my answer is no. and pulling data is pretty clear that lets of people who say their independent go when and vote for republican up and down the line or democratic up and down the line, and they like to say well i'm independent, i think about the character but they really are one party or the other. the large majority. some states to get called in independent if you don't register in a party to vote in the primary. primary turnout -- they may be called in different rather than independent. >> i think people are less

re-election which is different than it was with bill clinton and richard nixon who had just won overwhelmingly re-elections. the other differences, donald trump comes into this much more weaked a weakened and wounded than bill clinton and even when nixon was when those hearings started. donald trump already has richard nixon's low approval ratings and a plurality of public supporting impeachment. the one thing donald trump has different than richard nixon, a wall of republican support that has not crumbled that began to crumble for richard nixon. >> he has also had support inside his administration. i want to bring in pierre thomas, our chief justice koe t correspondent. this has all happened since robert mueller delivered his report earlier this summer. we have learned all about these interactions with ukraine, and the attorney general, william barr, took some heat for the way he presented mueller's findings to the public. he has also been involved in this episode, taking that criminal referral from the cia, deciding it was not a crime, the president's phone call. >> reporter: george, it's all been complicated for the attorney general becaus

the former president bill clinton and the present occupant of the white house, donald trump.al prince andrew and the epstein scandal is available on the bbc iplayer. immigration has featured strongly in the general election campaign today. jeremy corbyn has said there would continue to be plenty of movement of people in and out of britain under a labour government. while the conservatives have given more details of how they would make the system the same for people from eu countries as for the rest of the world. jessica parker reports. long debated. the flow of people to the uk. the free movement of workers around the eu. he wants a further referendum with remain versus a labour brexit deal. so, what might their immigration policy look like? 0ur their immigration policy look like? our economy and society has been enriched massively by people who have made their homes here. no labour government brought in by me will bring in a hostile environment like theresa may did. will free movement and when we leave the eu? there will be a great deal of movement. so every movement will no

bill clinton went up during the process. donald trump among republicans. >> we'll have to see how that plays out in the coming weeks. i want to bring that to maggie. it seems like the democrats in the house have passed the point of no return. hard to this be handled in the senate? there is those who want to dismiss it quickly and those who want to drag out the trial for several weeks. >> there's enormous confusion and the lack of certainty coming from the white house on exactly what they want. i've heard some signals from the white house they want a vote to dismiss. they don't want an up or down vote. i think there are senators who are concerned about that appearance. >> if you get 51 votes, you can dismiss. no guarantee that mitt romney, susan collins -- >> correct. >> others who are facing re-election -- >> mitch mcconnell indicated there will be a trial. >> they're having real debate about it. >> he has indicated that, but he's kept his options open. >> best believe folks like us are watching closely.l be p senate republicans who are

carty, president gerald ford, and every current president starting with bill clinton, george bush, barack obama and yes donald trumpppeared a couple of times on "hardball" with chris matthews. it's also eight presidential nominees, eight candidates from president from the major parties have appeared on "hardball." some blasts from the past right here. eight presidential nominees and countless -- we tried to start tal yeing these and candidates for president. democrats, republicans running for president in their primaries, all the elections since this show came to msnbc. too large to count. and this year that tally has certainly grown. if you're running for president, you're going to be on "hardball" with chris matthews. how about this, chris himself impersonated on the gold standard of pop culture. "saturday night live" 26 times chris has been impersonated. i remember i was covering the 2004 presidential primary up in new hampshire. saturday before the primary big bar, everybody in the media is there. tv has "snl" on, darrell hammond comes out to do chris matthews. the door opens in the bar, chris matthews walks in

lauer stuff, no one knew -- do you think they would have quashed that story if it was donald trump instead of bill clintonlaura? i'm wondering if their same journalistic standards that allowed them to pedal vbs dossier and the mueller hoax as though it was gospel -- in fact, for three years, i wonder if those same journalistic standards were in place then for this one. give me a break. >> laura: well, the thing about this, he just keeps getting worse for the american media. you think they can't go lower. >> it's like, hold my beer. >> laura: every day, there seems to be another low. where there is no pretense of objectivity -- for most, there are a few reporters left, but not many. very little pretense of even an attempt at objectivity. forgot actual objectivity. >> correct. i spend a lot of time in the book, focusing on the mainstream media and the fact they have just written off the notion of objectivity totally. we've known for decades that they are left-leaning, but now they have just made a point to be the marketing wing, the total defenders of the loony left, and any of the insanity that they will p

now this is the third impeachment inquiry over the last 45 years, with richard nixon, bill clinton, and now donald trumphost: the political system has weaponized impeachment. impeachment has become a political tool, and that has become a problem, a huge problem. what are we going to do next as a people? are we going to destroy ourselves? because khrushchev once said, we will bury you. not mean he directly. he meant we would destroy ourselves, and we are destroying ourselves. host: take a look at "the wall street journal" editorial, because they conclude that. telling the caller to get a life. politico.com, the white house trying to protect calm -- trying to project calm even as the gop launches a counteroffensive. that is the headline. within the white house on wednesday, quickly settling on biggest sin of democrats as they -- they were boring. president trump said he was not even watching, too busy with other important work. onice is keeping an eye muted tv's, but they dismissed the landmark events as a tedious affair. was belied -- the attempt to project calm within the west wing was belied throughout

bill clinton. for much clearer reasons than they are impeaching donald trump.ct, it likely will hurt the democrats, ministering to dawn on them now. and that realization is having an interesting effect, it always does. at the moment you realize you are not convincing anyone, the moment you get that your propaganda is impotent, you change. in this case, the establishment is doing less and less to conceal what they are really up to. here's one example. earlier this morning, "bloomberg news," named after the guy who is running for president, by the way, published this tweet, summarizing the first day of hearings. keep in mind, "bloomberg news" is a news operation, and we are quoting, "the first public impeachment hearing against donald trump laid out how a handful of loyalists led by rudy giuliani wrested control of u.s. policy from season to do diplomats." "wrested control of u.s. policy from season diplomats"? presumably in whose hands it should remain. consider that for a minute -- by the way, that the underlying assumption of all of the dumb people. chuck todd

double down the base will stand behind him and like bill clinton when he was impeached he may get a rise out of this in popularity i think donald trump'snumbers are where they are he's unpopular has been deeply unpopular he was in over 50 percent on election day has never been over 50 percent but he could survive and this could language is incredibly dangerous this is not a coup this is a constitutional process kooser violent this is illegal this is legitimate this is what are our system is supposed to do when a man like donald trump seeks to undermine it he's attacking us elections it's ludicrous but it may work and the reason it may work is because republicans have shown they are with this president no matter what and that is absolutely critical here isn't that will the republicans move if we look at what we've seen coming out of the impeachment inquiry so if the most damning testimony has come from those who worked for him they weren't democrats these were people who were committed public servants who said look something is wrong yet we don't like what is taking place is that enough to shift republicans and potentially 18 to the the

our history it happened with andrew johnson it happened with bill clinton so yeah i mean i think if that happens we will continue on donald trump will remain president just what his position will be and how strong he will be at that point i have the going into a another election a presidential election next year and it's hard to believe that even if he is not convicted by the senate that ultimately that the voters want will not in the end will pass on what he did into the u.s. president retreated recently a threat of civil war like conditions in the u.s. if he is impeached and removed from office did you ever think anything like that could happen or a threat like that would come from the white house when you were working on the impeachment pietschmann case against president nixon. not never i'm fact i never thought any of this would ever happen again but this president has been off unhinged has basically done everything your counter to our enormous with respect to our president acts i has undermined almost every policy that we've had with respect to our allies in europe and other parts of the world and what he's done with ukrai

98 impeachment move with republicans where republicans wanted to get bill clinton just like a lot of democrats want to get donald trump, there's a lot of evidence for why democrats may want to do that, but that atmosphere is out there and donald trump acts in his own way and as we've seen with trump supporter, they're seaying if you shoot somebody on 5th avenue, we'll have to ask why. >> do you think john kelly could have prevented the president from pressuring ukraine? >> no. if donald trump wants to pick up the phone and make a call, hooe going to do so. you know, we've talked for years now well if only donald trump puts down his phone and doesn't tweet so much, we know that's not going to happen. >> tweeting more than ever now. more than ever because he's trying to scream more loudly in his own defense. >> let me read a tweet today. the call to the ukrainian president, he still says was perfect and that's in big capital letters. he said read the transcript, which it's interesting he thinks that because he does say in that call do me a favor though, which of course is his own words an evidence that democrats are use

eroded to1990's, impeach bill clinton for obstruction of today, you refuse to impeach donald trump for obstruction of justice. they profited off the presidency, ignoring subpoenas, in theuid quo pro ukraine, how is what trump is doing acceptable what bill clinton did unacceptable? rep. sensenbrenner: what bill clinton did was identify as possibly impeachable conduct by the special counsel kenneth starr. he was appointed under a law, which has expired, and i let it expire when i was chairman, as i thought it was a bad law. and when he gave the house of representatives the 40 boxes of evidence and said that this was possibly impeachable, i think that made it incumbent upon us to determine whether it was impeachable conduct. question on obstruction of justice, what that evidence showed is that in the civil suit that was filed against clinton for sexual harassment, there that were allegedly given to monica lewin ski that ended up being retrieved by the president, put in a box, and hitting under the president's secretary's bed. that is clearly obstruction of justice. as a matter of fact, an

of bill clinton trent lott joins us during the impeachment trial of bill clinton trent lott joins us for a wide ranging one on one including thoughts on donald trump for a wide range you want on one including thoughts on donald trump the 2020 campaign and what he learned from his experiences the 2020 campaign and what he learned from his experiences with impeachment proceedings he joins me from washington d.c. with impeachment proceedings he joins me from washington d.c. president trump has called the impeachment inquiry. president trump has called the impeachment inquiry a hoax and a scam vice president pence calls it a discreet and a scam vice president pence calls it of the scrapes what does trent lott color. well it. what does trent lott call it. well it concerns me it bothers me having been through it i don't think it's good for the country it concerns me it bothers me having been through it i don't think it's good for the country i worried both during the nixon impeachment proceedings and i worried both during the nixon impeachment proceedings and the clinton process in the senate i did want to do damage to the clinton process in the senate

president of the united states is going to defend himself, he doesn't give a darn what bill clinton provides as advice, donald trump was not elected in any way shape or form to beat bill clinton, this was before there was a social media. going to defend himself. adam schiff is 3% of the story. back to 0% he will try to connect dots that aren't connected. >> might not have seen that tweet but a message for other witnesses because of live tweeting during a hearing. >> the president will defend himself. take an oath, answer all the questions as candidly as you can regardless over the next week or so, the impeachment circus or something else. democrats insist ontario the country in half, the president just don't sit back and allow adam schiff. last sunday on the news show they started talking extortion. they are talking bribery. i don't know what the next shiny object of the day will be but don't expect this president of the united states to sit back and allow this to go on, he knows it will be better for our country to pass us mca, working together to lower the cost of reception drug prices. and a republican president

they are in districts that donald trump won -- >> laura: what have they delivered? byron, bill clintonctually called in to see an cnn to deliver a message to president trump. watch. >> you got hired to do a job. every day is an opportunity to make something good happen. and i would say i've got lawyers and people hammering the impeachment inquiry, emaciated had, cavett meanwhile, i'm going to deliver for the american people. >> laura: i can't say i believe this. i agree with bill clinton. the president shouldn't even talk about it. he talked about it too much in the rally. >> he said it every day in 1998. he got impeached but it did work in the sense that he got acquitted. on the other hand, democrats are going to do this. every time you are doing something, you reach a point -- >> laura: point of no return. >> never mind. also, they got 232 votes to continue this inquiry. that is 14 more -- >> laura: how many do they have on the emoluments clause? they were going to them impeach him on emoluments a few months ago. >> you have democrats that have been watching articles of impeachment v

had carter, gerald ford, every current president starting with bill clinton in the late '90s, george w. bush, barack obama and yes, donald trumpnald trump has appeared a couple of times on "hardball" with chris matthews. eight presidential nominees. eight candidates for president have appeared on "hardball." john kerry, john mccain. we tried to start tallying these. candidates for president. democrats, republicans, running in their presidential primaries in 2000, 2004, all of the elections since this show came to msnbc. this year, largest democratic field ever. that tally has certainly grown. if you're running for president, you're going to be on "hardball" with chris matthews. 26 times chris has been impersonated by daryl hannah. i was covering the 2004 presidential primary in new hampshire. sat before the primary, tv has snl on. darrell hammond comes out to do chris matthews. the door opens in the bar, chris matthews walks in. the place went crazy. memorable moment then. darrell hammond came on "ha "hardball." 13 ha's in one segment. the duel, 2004 convention, zel miller came on and challenged chris. how about 2.8. this happ

clinton to run more than donald trump in 2020 is kennedy. >> well kennedy is -- >> wha' happened? she wants it so bad. >> here is the list, i would say trump. say bille wants her out of the house. enjoy his life, i am married a long time i get it. i'm with you. and i do believe she talks to god that would explain the collection in mass. i'm giving you a hard time. i do think that -- a little bit. i don't know why. i think to be honest, i agree she might not want to, but i don't think that party is giving her a choice but to consider it. no one has come along claimed ththe mantle, remember kamala ke capped joe biden, in california she is polling 3 points behind the wildfires, i think there is a opening, if you are listening, hillary just get in. >> leave it with the wildfire joke. >> that is always nice. >> coming up, a trump judicial nominee sobbing during a nomination hearing after questions whether he economy fair on the bench to all americans, but is the american bar association to blame? shannon bream breaking it down after this. great riches will find you when liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wow.

donald trump is re-elected? that has not happened in the history of this republic. andrew johnson was not nominated again by his party. bill clinton was impeached in his second term. nixon, as you well know, resigned before he could be impeached. so if donald trump is elected after having been impeached, there is some hand wringing that he would be even more immune to oversight than he currently seems to think that he is, chuck. >> and we are exactly where nancy pelosi predicted we would be actually if we ever went down this road with impeachment. we're going to get to that in a few minutes. jeff bennett, thank you very much. anita, where we are in this is not a shock. we always sort of knew -- it feels like we were going to be where essentially we are at partisan point -- everybody is looking at this through a partisan lens now on capitol hill. what do the democrats do? if new information is not going to move people, they seem to be in this box where they can't -- they can't go away now. they keep getting more evidence. >> i mean, it's interesting that nancy pelosi went ahead and did this. we, as you said, we knew we would be her

bill clinton in washington d.c. is jack kingston a republican party member and a former senior adviser to donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign and in birmingham in the u.k. scott lucas a professor of political science and international studies at the university of birmingham welcome to you all gentlemen thank you for being on inside story richard goodstein let me start with you donald trump very combative he says his a victim part is in break chant what is motivating democrats house members to move forward with this process is it politics or is it duty. imagine if president barack obama had told the saudis we will give you a lot of aid if you in the aid of hillary clinton's presidential campaign find dirt on donald trump and publicize it and we will not have a meeting saudis in the white house unless you get dirt on hillary clinton the republicans in congress would have gone ballistic they would have started impeachment proceedings the 1st time they heard about that but we're talking about here that's exactly the situation that we have here president trump democrats talk about the a.b.c.'s of impeachment is the abus

had carter, gerald ford, every current president starting with bill clinton in the late '90s, george w. bush, barack obama and yes, donald trump couple of times on "hardball" with chris matthews. that's six presidents. it's also eight presidential nominees, eight candidates for president from the major parties have appeared on "hardball." john kerry, john mccain. blasts from the past here. eight presidential nominees, then countless -- we tried to start tallying these, too many to count. candidates for president. democrats, republicans, running in their presidential primaries in 2000, 2004, all of the elections since this show came to msnbc. too many to count and of course this year, largest democratic field ever. that number has certainly -- that tally has certainly grown. if you're running for president, you're going to be on "hardball" with chris matthews. how about this? chris himself impersonated on the gold standard of pop culture, "saturday night live" 26 times by darrell hannah. i was covering the 2004 presidential primary in new hampshire. saturday before the primary, big bar, everybody in the media is there, tv has "

bill clinton and with george h.w. bush and general election polling. donald trump may have taken a lesson from that since he decided that as a business celebrity and reality tv guy, maybe if you really want to be president, maybe you be better off seeking a nomination of one of the two major parties rather than going as an independent as ross perot had done 24 years before. could a third party emerge? well, i think we have had what amounts to kind of a test case of that. suspect nobody in this room remembers the election of 1912. but i see judge williams is laughing at that but that's okay. but the -- we had a pretty clear test in 1912. an era when the articulate america was talking about the appeal of progressive ideas. there was a progressive party, and it ended up with a candidate named theodore roosevelt who had gotten the highest personal of the popular vote of any president just eight years before, sense the beginning of the republican-democratic rivalry. so they had a celebrity candidate with proven ability in bothber national and foreign affairs -- internat

bill clinton. you didn't vote again in an election until 2016. is that right? >> donald trump was running.lly, another businessman, and i got fired up. >> has he lived up to your expectations? >> absolutely. i think he's doing just fine. if he says this is what i'm going to do, he's doing it. >> he hasn't built the wall. do you hold that promise against him? >> no. because isn't the whole wall part of getting the money from congress too? and isn't congress stopping him from getting the money? i mean, where's the money going to come from? is he supposed to print it right there at the white house? >> well, i think it's coming from mexico. that was the campaign promise. >> i believe that's literally a quote. >> how many of you if the election were held today, show of hands, would vote for president trump? okay. one of you would. lisa marie, are you on the fence? >> i liked him in the beginning when he first came out. he was saying things like it is. probably saying things like most of us think but don't want to say. but i'm also thinking he's gotten out of control. >> that's just him. i mean,