councilmember bill cole. council member nick moseley. thank you very much.s year our team is on a magical ride, are we? -- aren't we? i am so proud to be here, and i want to thank each and everyone of you for coming out. crazy. all right, we have to keep going. all right, all right. right before i bring on the coach, i want to say one thing, they said we could not beat the team from indianapolis, we proved them wrong. they said we could not beat the broncos, and i am still waiting for the mayor to pay up into his stance. they said we could not beat the patriots, and we taught them a little something last sunday. you know what i say, let them keep underestimating our ravens, because that is when we shined the best. i want to thank the governor for being here, and we would like to bring up the coach that is going to bring us the super bowl. all right, ok -- >> when i say baltimore, use a ravens. baltimore. let's go win the super bowl for baltimore. >> we know we have to get to new orleans, so we cannot let all the players talk, but if there is one voice, if th

republican congressman tom cole of oklahoma, we'll call those 80 republicans that voted for the bill last night the cole caucus. >> let's just call them the spartans. they knew when we had to stand and fight. zhe >> thanks for being on the show. >> let's bring in our panel. thanks so much for being on the show, guys. chris, you're in the studio with me so you get the opportunity to go first. i want to play what representative steve latourette said this morning on cbs. >> he said if there was no deal, taxes would have gone up on every american. and the speaker's stated objective was to spare as many people in the country as he could from a tax increase but at the end of the day we got whooped. >> do you think the gop got whooped? >> i'm not sure how much leverage they have for the debt ceiling fight. i know they're playing this card right now, this game where they're trying to sound tough but the consequentices are hard. they seem so dysfunctional. it looks like they need an exorcism to get this right. they don't seem to know which direction they want to go, which is why they keep figh

. >> president obama is due to sign a con gun cole -- a gun control bill this month and the supporters i tacked to said they will -- i talked to said they will not back down. paul sedillo. station. >>> two men have drowned in heavy surf off of kawai. two men were throwing rocks along a shoreline when a wave slammed into them. baker was dragged off and griffith tried to save him and they both drowned. griffith's body was recovered but the search was called off due to dangerous water. >>> san francisco and u.s. coast guard rescue crews were called to ocean beach after the surfers were reported missing around 12:30 this afternoon. one witness told cbs 5 the surfers were struggling to get back to shore. >> it was looking like the waves were smashing on top of them but they eventually worked their way to shore without any assistance. >> the effort to save the surfers comes after the national weather service issued a high surf advisory from sonoma to the san mateo coast. >>> standing or walking along the shore can also be hazardous. cbs 5 reporter ann maco vick tells us sneaker waves pose a

bill. with me is congressman tom cole of oklahoma who would be a part of those meetings. congressman, good afternoon to you. >> good to see you, chris. >> tell me what you think is going to happen inside this first meeting. >> well, i think obviously we're going to get fully brief odd what's in the senate bill? most members haven't had a chance to read it. we're going to have some interesting discussions. i think there's obviously a concern on a number of areas. >> tell me where you think those discussions will focus, where the concerns will focus? >> the big single concern will be there is not enough in terms of spending reduction. the obvious answer to that is that's coming because sequester is pro months away and the debt ceiling in that time frame. we'll be dealing with spending next. i think there will also be some -- frankly, almost theological debate as to whether this is a tax increase. in my view, it's not. taking 85% of the bush tax cuts and making them permanent, something we couldn't do when george bush was president and we had both houses, that's a big win. t

does appear that there is a move towards just voting up or down on the senate bill and not doing this amendment. >> tom coleputy whip, part of the leadership. he didn't seem that enthused about gathering people up for this 217 votes that they need. one of the things that changes as you mentioned, the senate is gone so -- gone for the night. if they get this amendment and it has to go back to the senate, what you will face between now and 14 hours from now is the opening of u.s. markets for the first time and there is some sense that they are conscious of the fact that both the public and the markets may not approve of them not getting a deal 518 days now after they first knew this was going to come about. >> reporter: there is a sentiment. look, they have seen this movie before. that was a year and a half ago when they put the sequester in place to begin with when the debt ceiling was an issue. and the markets did not react well. you remember this a lot better than i do, i think. they understand the risk to the economy, to the u.s. economy and the world economy, by standing on principle. certainly the princ

bill clinton or george w. bush. and stay with us this morning. coleing up at 7:30, mark lerner and screech will be here live from the nats. >> it is interesting. we were talking about the presidents and any time kevin starts talking about the movies, we start talking about the movies. >> everybody starts talking about their favorites. >> still ahead, this morning as big story continues to be the weather. >> sidewalk and side roads are still a little tricky this morning after what we saw yesterday. the weather could impact your drive home later on today. >>> plus, there are some closings and delays this morning too and we have got the latest list on myfoxdc.com. it is also running at the bottom of your screen so keep an eye out for it. time now is 5:28. >>> welcome back to fox 5 morning news. this is a live look outside over a cold washington, d.c. we had some snow yesterday and this afternoon, we'll get some more snow. it is friday, january 25th and we've got some information for you as well. >> some school closings and delays to tell you about because o

bill. but i think this house of representatives on a bipartisan basis, members working together, louise slaughter, michael grimm, tom cole, others coming together and we are now getting behind a bill. one of the amendments is called the rodney frelinghuysen amendment and it is an amendment that meets the needs of these states and these people. so for those who would say we've taken our time, i'd like to say, i think we're trying to do it right. for those who would say, well, we're not sure exactly how much should be in here or not. this body will determine it by the votes. every member of this body i believe will have a fair and open opportunity not just as a result of the rule but us working together and i'm very proud of that process. very proud of how rogers, our appropriations chair, who came to the rules committee yesterday and said that he placed before this body what he felt like was an equal opportunity for us to help people this time in the northeast. perhaps it will be people other places. but he wants to make sure that fairness is done. the speaker of the house, john boehner, cares deeply about the people of t

bill. one man responsible for wrangling republican votes in the house is the deputy whip, congressman tom coledon't know if you'll appreciate it if i say congratulations to you. >> it's been a difficult few weeks the house worked its will tonight. i'm pleased to make 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people, to get rid of the alternative minimum tax once and for all. there's a lot of good things in this bill and the president is going to have to be a lot more for the coming than he has been on spending cuts and entitlement reform going forward. we'll have that opportunity when we deal with sequestration and when the debt ceiling comes up again. >> you're a member of the house leadership. you're all important, all members of congress but you're a member of the leadership. how will you do things differently going forward with the debt ceiling debate, the sequester debate? >> i disagree with some of your earlier callers. we didn't have a downgrade because of the debt ceiling debate. we had it because we weren't dealing with our deficit. >> that's not entirely true -- >> t

notoriously the first generation that has realized what planetary bills for centuries of burning fossil fuels is going to be. in jules verne's era cole was a costly but essential part of progress but steam powered exploits were at the height of european imperialism represents a phase of the past that is history meaning over and done with. airplanes have replaced the cold burning engines that hurdle fog around, the empire protected some people including 5 at the expense of others have been replaced with other political regimes. it is not difficult to cross the world in 80 days, and get a passport and visa. when i returned from see on land, a look for history of around the world travel. there was none so i wrote one. i very quickly decided very early on that there was no point in trying to document all of the circumnavigations that never existed. i didn't want to write an encyclopedia. i wanted to explain why circumnavigation is distinctive. what we have the term around the world, what do these mean. what is going around world matter in the broader scheme of things. it matters because it shows how human beings have been thinking of the

bill. one man responsible for wrangling republican votes in the house is the deputy whip, congressman tom cole. i don't know if you'll appreciate it if i say congratulations to you. >> it's been a difficult few weeks the house worked its will tonight. i'm pleased to make 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people, to get rid of the alternative minimum tax once and for all. there's a lot of good things in this bill and the president is going to have to be a lot more for the coming than he has been on spending cuts and entitlement reform going forward. we'll have that opportunity when we deal with sequestration and when the debt ceiling comes up again. >> you're a member of the house leadership. you're all important, all members of congress but you're a member of the leadership. how will you do things differently going forward with the debt ceiling debate, the sequester debate? >> i disagree with some of your earlier callers. we didn't have a downgrade because of the debt ceiling debate. we had it because we weren't dealing with our deficit. >> that's not entirely true --

150,000 votes, so naturally republican delegate mark cole is pushing a tough voter id law that would out law bank statements paychecks and even utility billse used them as indication. in california for the first time in 130 years, democrats actually have a two-thirds super majority in both chambers to go along with the governor lawmakers have lard introduced more than 100 bills in california including one to strictly regulate ammunition purchases. here to discuss that is "san francisco chronicle" political reporter joe garofoli. let's talk about california for a second. because all i can tell you, as a former governor two-third's majority in each house. oh my god. >> it's very tempting to ram through everything you have ever wanted to do. but jerry brown, remember this is his third term. 74 years old. he is a smarter wiser guy. look for the legislature to follow his lead. >> jennifer: it will have to go on the ballot if they are going to raise taxes. >> right. >> jennifer: even though that was the big drawback of prop 13. >> prop 13 caps property taxes, but they are going to nibble at it. is sort of a loophole that says if you are a commer

bill. one man responsible for wrangling republican votes in the house is the deputy whip, congressman tom cole. i don't know if you'll appreciate it if i say congratulations to you. >> it's been a difficult few weeks the house worked its will tonight. i'm pleased to make 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people, to get rid of the alternative minimum tax once and for all. there's a lot of good things in this bill and the president is going to have to be a lot more for the coming than he has been on spending cuts and entitlement reform going forward. we'll have that opportunity when we deal with sequestration and when the debt ceiling comes up again. >> you're a member of the house leadership. you're all important, all members of congress but you're a member of the leadership. how will you do things differently going forward with the debt ceiling debate, the sequester debate? >> i disagree with some of your earlier callers. we didn't have a downgrade because of the debt ceiling debate. we had it because we weren't dealing with our deficit. >> that's not entirely true --

>> yes, and i think another thing tom cole made a really good comment on is that the speaker handled it well. we got a bill from the snad, 2:00 in the morning, we had a two and a half hour discussion about it, open mic, a very, very good open discussion from all philosophies of our conference. we med again a couple hours later and reached the conclusion if we were unable to amend this bill, then it was best to pass it because of market considerations and the economy in general. but we all know that in two months we're going to have this same drama unfold again, and it won't be any different than the place we were in in august 2011 when we created this whole sequestration system to begin with, so to me it's very frustrating that at some point someone besides conservatives in the house are going to have to say, you know what, we've got to get our fiscal situation in order. for right now, every dollar we spend, 42 cents is borrowed. national debt is 100% of the gdp, and i don't care if you're a liberal democrat, conservative republican, not political, that should concern you. i know it does, but right now it'

bill, at least enough of them joining the democrats to move it forward. you could also see house republicans try to amend it. that's what tom cole is talking about on your air. he doesn't think that would happen and doesn't want that to happen but it certainly is a possibility if some conservative house republicans say we don't like this part of the deal let's send it back over to the senate. that puts us in sort of a chaos with so little time. today is a free day. the markets close. what happens tomorrow if there is still not a fiscal deal in place? lastly if there is an all out rejection all bets are off, we're jumping over the fiscal cliff. it is up to john boehner to gauge how his conference is going to react to this bill and from folks i've talked to there is a little bit of nervousness among house republican leaders. they have been left at altar many times by their conservative flank. real quickly back last year in 2011 the senate passed the payroll tax cut extension 89-11. very similar to what we saw the vote was earlier this morning. that was then defeated in the house of representatives a few days later. not saying we c

>> if there's a bipartisan bill out of the senate that boehner would put it on the floor, perhaps violate the hastert rule and go forward with what i like to call the tom coleaucus and the last pseudomoderates republicans left, about 60 of them left. pair them with democrats, there's a way forward. another group to mention that is very receptive to immigration reform within the house republican conference and republican party is a lot of very rich corporate republicans because guess what. i have seen folks come here on capitol hill of texas, arizona, california, rich business men who want those migrant workers because they need them in order to continue making their millions. that would be a strong push. chamber of commerce, they push on there. there will be a way forward from this in the house if there's a bipartisan bill in the senate and my guess is that boehner would allow those members to vote against it vote against it and try to rummage up the votes to move forward. you most likely get a significant amount of democrats and very good point. and unless there's this end all be all enforcement mechanism to agree on, you lose a lot of house republicans on

appropriation bills and all of these kinds of things in my mind having continuing resolutions to fund the government forever is unsustainable. you need to pass a budget to begin with a foundation. >> mr. cole, i also talked to attorneys, our attorneys, some other attorneys, not just on our staff and i tell them, talk to me like i can understand you. because they talk too much legal lease. i ask them, if i get a paycheck in my account every month and i don't get that paycheck in my account, so whenever it may come, at the end of the year, that's varying. their opinion, that could be. they didn't say it was. they said it could be that could violate the 27th amendment because they're varying something. not coming this month. coming at the end of the year. the other thing i would like to -- don't understand -- and i want to tell you like i think and how it is. we are kind of like trying to not punish but penalize the other side. the senate. because they haven't acted. so what we're doing is drafting legislation that's going to make our side, whether we pass or maybe sometimes not pass a budget, and we're going to punish, not punish. maybe penalize our side by not getting a payroll or paycheck

bill. as a member of the rules committee, with the background he has from appropriations. thank you, mr. cole, for your good service. >> thank you, mr. chairman, yield back. >> thank you very much. if i could add in that tom had previously served on the committee, and had done in my opinion, as the incoming chair, phenomenal job and felt like we needed him on the commitee. obviously with the new kind of processes we have happening, we're going to count on members of the committees to come and be integrated when the bills come before this committee, and tom, once again, as done an outstanding job. mr. hastings? >> thank you very much. chairman rogers, can you tell me whether or not you envision that with two proposals as we all are proceeding -- and this is just a process question -- the why of it all issue guess, is why two proposals? i envision there is a possibility of fur -- further delay. what is your thought with reference to that? >> i said from the very outset when this storm hit, there would probably be successive steps we would take. as more justifications came to us. and so i starte

appropriation bills and all of these kinds of things in my mind having continuing resolutions to fund the government forever is unsustainable. you need to pass a budget to begin with a foundation. >> mr. cole, i also talked to attorneys, our attorneys, some other attorneys, not just on our staff and i tell them, talk to me like i can understand you. because they talk too much legal lease. i ask them, if i get a paycheck in my account every month and i don't get that paycheck in my account, so whenever it may come, at the end of the year, that's varying. their opinion, that could be. they didn't say it was. they said it could be that could violate the 27th amendment because they're varying something. not coming this month. coming at the end of the year. the other thing i would like to -- don't understand -- and i want to tell you like i think and how it is. we are kind of like trying to not punish but penalize the other side. the senate. because they haven't acted. so what we're doing is drafting legislation that's going to make our side, whether we pass or maybe sometimes not pass a budget, and we're going to punish, not punish. maybe penalize our side by not getting a payroll or paycheck

cole, and fred rome, please? >> go ahead. >> my name is margaret fishman. i'm a retired teacher. i am a proponent of the brady bill. i am a gun owner. there are limits to most of my constitutional rights. and the second amendment is no exception. i may not own a surface-to-air missile nor a functional tank. however, i would never want to ban all guns. the time is now for reasonable federal legislation. while i have advocated continually on this issue, it appears that the public will and the political will are now intersecting. a perfect storm, if you will. the time is now for a ban on assault weapons. we could get into a massive discussion these weapons but i'm referring to high-capacity removable clips. universal background checks are needed, registration and a nationwide buyback program. the time is now. i trust that the intent of this forum is more than show and tell, and that vice-president biden's nationwide effort to hear the people will result in actual federal legislation without flaws that allow skirting the issue or the law. i know from personal experience at this n.r.a. does not speak for all gun owners.