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now you have this testimony from bill donahue and bishops and people speaking up against this mandaterealize that this president erred on the side of trampling the rules of people. this has blown up in his face. in addition to all of the democrats that you've named who have publicly lambasted the president over it, you've got many people, centrists, evangelicals, jews, catholics, people across the spectrum of communities of faith that are outraged about it because they know. if the obama administration can abuse it's executive authority to go after catholics. they can abuse it to go after anybody. >> sean: i love the "wall street journal" put it in their piece, hhs tell religious leaders to go to hell and the public notices. think about it. for example, a lot, i'm raised catholic and lot of my fellow catholics are saying to me, they have faith in president obama. but this to them is a huge issue. it's not where they stand on abortion or contraception it's about freedom of religion. that is where the assault is here? >> that's right. i think if you listen very closely to jay carney, it

that obviously could have an impact in bill donahue told fox that the lobbying has just begun. >> when the government is going to knock down the wall of separation of church and state and overreach like the obama administration, you have a war on your hands. >> reporter: now, what senator rubio was trying to tweak is their are conscience klousz but they could opt out if they close their doors to jews and that is against the catholic philosophy. they want to offer care to all faith. they want to do exemption. >> shep: insiders believe it's a political issue clearly and the white house had a prepared statement that seemed unusual. >> reporter: when i was asked jay carney, they know its volatile issue. catholics make up about 27% of the electorate in 2008. that roughly when you look at exit poll data, that means about 35 million catholic voters. president, he carried 54%. beat john mccain by 55 points but jay carney was playing a balancing act. they don't want to lose it. >> between the religion beliefs and increasing access to important services we will continue to work closely with reli

you heard bill donahue talk about how you've got a war on your hands.ion yesterday say, we've struck the appropriate balance. they've given the catholic church until august to come employ with the new man date that says, not the kphoeufp but religious institutions, catholic universities, hospitals, have to cover contraception for their employees with no co-pay, and it led to the bishops now sending out this edict over the weekend that had priests standing up in mass reading to their congres congress congratulations letters that say they are not going to comply with the law. does this go against religion. >> absolutely. in this particular situation it's the catholics that are under assault, their religious freedom. once you assault religious freedom by saying that the government or any nationalized program has prerogative over religious freedom it will extend beyond the catholic situation, it will affect the jewish people, protestant organizations and far more than that. megyn: reiterating yesterday, they are striking the appropriate balance between resp

meg joining me now, peter johnson jr., and bill donahue, president of the catholic league.n have been on the program before all of this and both had some issues with this plan. so we wanted to have you back on and ask you whether you are satisfied with the resolution as outlined by the president on friday. peter? >> you know, in a legal sense it is not an exemption, it is not a compromise. the federal government's decide hog's catholic and who's catholic enough. and deciding, well, listen, we're going make it easier for you, the cardinals and priests and bishops and nuns of america. you don't have to hand out drugs that induce abortions. we will have the insurance companies do that for you so you can keep your consciouses clean. that doesn't protect faith in america. that doesn't honor congress. conscious. that doesn't honor the internal workings of the church or any church which are protected by the constitution and by laws and by case law. you're not supposed to reach into the internal workings of a hierarchical organization like the catholic church and tell them what to

he says never before, the quote is from the catholic leader bill donahue who is here all the time fromecedented in american history for the federal government to line up against the roman catholic church. will he in fact get a backlash to candidates on the republican side seem to be picking up a lot of that anger. >> absolutely. and the provision is that it would -- that under the new health care law, it would require catholic institutions like universities and even catholic hospitals to pay for contraceptives and also sterilization. >> or get no federal funding. >> exactly right. they've got a big choice. well, anyway, and in fact there's a story out today that u.s. bishops are contemplating a massive march on washington, d.c. bussing in thousands of people, kids and school buses, all to protest this. rick santorum, we've got him reacting right here. he's reacting to the fact that the white house is saying, look, you guys don't understand what we're trying to do here. also, mitt romney. listen. >> that's just a bunch of poppycock. i mean, that's just ridiculous. i mean, look, mr. pres

when we started our bill, madam president, you remember we made history because we had richard trumpka, the head of the afl-cio, sitting next to donnelly, tom donnelly -- donahue, sorry -- correct me -- donahue, the head of the chamber of commerce. donahue and trumpka, the odd couple. they're fighting and arguing on everything. they come together in front of our committee because they know we will all benefit, all of america benefits when we do a bill like this. so i think i've shared with you a lot but there is one more thing. if we allow this bill to go away and we are stuck with an extension, because the transportation fund is not collecting enough gas tax revenuerevenues because -- thera good news reason -- we're getting better fuel economy and we're taking more public transit so the gas tax is not coming in at the rate it normally does. we will be down 35% in the fund. so right away, right away, 631,000 jobs are down. so what's so great about our bill is it's four committees, including the finance committee, who filled the hole, filled the gap in a way that was bipartisan. so our story is a great story to tell. if i had to tell my grandkids, i'd say, "onc