bill donahue is the president of the catholic league, and, bill, we asked georgetown for a statementn this, they said, well, she's not speaking at commencement, she's going to speak at the annual student and faculty awards event. is it a distinction twowt -- without a difference? >> it is, and can they know it. they ought to correct their web site, i saw it this morning. this is about a war between the catholic left and the bishops. they're angry toward the bishops because they're tilting towards republicans. believe me, if anything, thai overwhelmingly democratic, and they have been for a long time. the it is true they've stood up against the mandate forcing catholic nonprofits to pay for abortion-inducing drugs in their insurance plans. because of that, it's perceived their anti-obama, and now they're saying bring it on, fellas, because we're after representative ryan -- which they just got finished blasting about a week or so ago -- but they like kathleen sebelius. i don't even know if this woman is a catholic, and the reason i say that, you can be excommunicated in the catholic c