let's bring in california a supplement bill essayli and rnc spokeswoman elizabeth pipko. bill, to you first, g.o.p. senator kramer talked about this about meeting with pete hegseth today. >> i ask him about is there anything else that we don't know that could surprise us and he said there's absolutely nothing. unless some but he make something up. i said well that's always a possibility. but i said one of the things that hurts people most in this business, in my business, our surprises. >> trace: meantime pete hegseth attorney says he's getting the bret cavanaugh treatment. what do you think? >> i think it's incredibly important he gets confirmed. they've taken out matt gaetz from the running. if they are able to take out pete on these allegations that have never been proven, he's never had it in mission of guilt, there's never been charges, it's an accusation that's been launched by an anonymous person. if that's enough to take out a presidential cabinet nominee, they are going to use that as a playbook for other nominees as well. >> trace: it's interesting elizabeth pipk