and in a past life was chief of staff to the majority leader bill frist and to -- and chief of staffnator.çó the session is moderated by alai murray. alan is especially appropriate for this given his authorship of "showdown at guchi gulch" 1986 and i would say it would make a terrific holiday gift having used it in class. alan? >> that was good. that made the trip all worth whooil. thank you, david. so it's a bigger panel than the last panel and each panelist this time only gets 5 to 7 minutes. we have a bit of a problem because three of theÑi people o this panel have worked in the u.s. senate which knows no time limits, but i'll do my best to enforce it. we're going to start with frances lee. >> it's difficult to find optimism in the near term about the quest to bring government expenditures into a sustainable balance. when democrats control the presidency and enjoy solid molecular weight martian of control in both chambers of underestimate the need for a legislative bipartisanship. nevertheless, data collected over long periods of time testify to the great importance of bipartisans

and served as budget aide to bill frist. francis lee, associate professor of government and politics at the university of maryland college park. and senior cal to the director of the federal director of consecration and the majority leader bill frist, to chief of staff of senator pete energy. the session is moderated by alan murray. he authored showdown it gucci gulch details of the negotiations leading to the tax reform act of 1986. i would say having used it in class that it would make a terrific holiday gift. >> that was good. made the trip all worthwhile. it is a bigger panel and the last panel. each panelist only gets five to seven minutes. we have a bit of a problem because three of the people on this panel worked in the u.s. senate which knows no time limits. i will do my best to enforce it. we will start with francis lee. >> difficult to find the cause for optimism about the quest to bring government revenue into a sustainable balance. at a time when democrats controlled presidency and enjoy solid margin of control i

william holden, policy adviser to bill frist, francis lee, assistant professor of government and politics, and senior counsel of the federal bureau of investigation', -- the session s a moderated. he is especially appropriate -- appropriate for this panel. i would say that's it would make a great holiday gift. >> that was good. made the trip all worthwhile. thank you. it is a bigger panel than the last panel. each panelist gets 5-7 minutes. we have a bit of a problem because three of the people on this panel have worked in the u.s. senate which knows no time limits. i will do my best to enforce it. >> it is difficult to find a cause for optimism about the government revenues an extension into some type of sustainable balance. it is easy to underestimate the need for a legislative bipartisanship. they have -- data collected over long periods of time testified to the great importance of bipartisanship for successful lawmaking. congress rarely legislate. including significant legislation on controversial matters. according to yale political science, 84% of the legislation passed by congress

william holden, policy adviser to bill frist, francis lee, assistant professor of government and politics, and senior counsel of the federal bureau of investigation', -- the session s a moderated. he is especially appropriate -- appropriate for this panel. i would say that's it would make a great holiday gift. >> that was good. made the trip all worthwhile. thank you. it is a bigger panel than the last panel. each panelist gets 5-7 minutes. we have a bit of a problem because three of the people on this panel have worked in the u.s. senate which knows no time limits. i will do my best to enforce it. >> it is difficult to find a cause for optimism about the government revenues an extension into some type of sustainable balance. it is easy to underestimate the need for a legislative bipartisanship. they have -- data collected over long periods of time testified to the great importance of bipartisanship for successful lawmaking. congress rarely legislate. including significant legislation on controversial matters. according to yale political science, 84% of the legislation passed by congress

carolina jim demint and others, including also, i might say, the democrat social frist vermont, bernie saunders, all favor a billt would have the government audit the federal re, that is, what agreements have they made with other central banks, that ought to be made available. where the money goes, if they put in the market, what criteria they use. that isn't about independence, that's about accountability. and the fed has reacted leak a scald cat on the thing, saying it's the end of civilization. no, it is not. everyone in government has to be account able. the c.i.a.,s fed has less accountability to congress not that central intelligence agency does, which is ridiculous. so it's a benign bill that congressman paul and others have proposed, and i hope it gets through congress. host: steve forbes, i have a comment for you, one of our to witters users, a twitter from stockmarketscam is his handle, writes that your book title does not make any sense, steve. you should change it "how the rich stole from the poor q. i'll tie that into one your chapters, chapter they're, "aren't the rich getting richer at other peopl

carolina jim demint and others, including also, i might say, the democrat social frist vermont, bernie saunders, all favor a billhat would have the government audit the federal re, that is, what agreements have they made with other central banks, that ought to be made available. where the money goes, if they put in the market, what criteria they use. that isn't about independence, that's about accountability. and the fed has reacted leak a scald cat on the thing, saying it's the end of civilization. no, it is not. everyone in government has to be account able. the c.i.a.,s fed has less accountability to congress not that central intelligence agency does, which is ridiculous. so it's a benign bill that congressman paul and others have proposed, and i hope it gets through congress. host: steve forbes, i have a comment for you, one of our to witters users, a twitter from stockmarketscam is his handle, writes that your book title does not make any sense, steve. you should change it "how the rich stole from the poor q. i'll tie that into one your chapters, chapter they're, "aren't the rich getting richer at other peo

carolina jim demint and others, including also, i might say, the democrat social frist vermont, bernie saunders, all favor a bill have the government audit the federal re, that is, what agreements have they made with other central banks, that ought to be made available. where the money goes, if they put in the market, what criteria they use. that isn't about independence, that's about accountability. and the fed has reacted leak a scald cat on the thing, saying it's the end of civilization. no, it is not. everyone in government has to be account able. the c.i.a.,s fed has less accountability to congress not that central intelligence agency does, which is ridiculous. so it's a benign bill that congressman paul and others have proposed, and i hope it gets through congress. host: steve forbes, i have a comment for you, one of our to witters users, a twitter from stockmarketscam is his handle, writes that your book title does not make any sense, steve. you should change it "how the rich stole from the poor q. i'll tie that into one your chapters, chapter they're, "aren't the rich getting richer at other people's exp

carolina jim demint and others, including also, i might say, the democrat social frist vermont, bernie saunders, all favor a billhat would have the government audit the federal re, that is, what agreements have they made with other central banks, that ought to be made available. where the money goes, if they put in the market, what criteria they use. that isn't about independence, that's about accountability. and the fed has reacted leak a scald cat on the thing, saying it's the end of civilization. no, it is not. everyone in government has to be account able. the c.i.a.,s fed has less accountability to congress not that central intelligence agency does, which is ridiculous. so it's a benign bill that congressman paul and others have proposed, and i hope it gets through congress. host: steve forbes, i have a comment for you, one of our to witters users, a twitter from stockmarketscam is his handle, writes that your book title does not make any sense, steve. you should change it "how the rich stole from the poor q. i'll tie that into one your chapters, chapter they're, "aren't the rich getting richer at other peo

bills even go to conference. as an example, take a look at the "congressional record" and you'll see the assurances made by then-majority leader frist to then-minority leader reid. these requests were made repeatedly to the democratic leadership, publicly and privately, about how the post-committee action of the bipartisan group would be handled in the merger with the "help" committee bill. it was the focus of a july 8 lunchtime face-to-face meeting at the majority leader's offices with senators reid, baucus, conrad, bingaman, snowe, enzi and myself. the bottom-line response from senator reid at that meeting that was he needed 60 votes. i guess the implication was that despite the fact that the democratic caucus contained 60 members then and now, senator reid didn't think it was possible to secure the votes of all the members of his caucus. a restatement of the reality of the senate rules was not the assurances that the three republican senators, this one included, sought from senator reid. senator reid himself recognized the validity of this request in an august 8 washingto "washingt" article, and so i would ask unanimous consent t