in fact, i was pleased to see bill grattison because in 1990 -- '87? '87 we, through a bipartisan teamwork in ways and means, came within two votes of capping the employer exemption at the astronomical amount of $5,000, which was double the average health plan then available. that would have forced the discipline that -- and the creativity that we're beginning to see under the structure now. why do i think it's a good time, notwithstanding the chances that were blown? because the democrats put in a far-reaching support structure, which has a lot of flaws, and i got to stop so we can do some questions, so it's there, and so my colleagues tried repeal, and people say why did they try repeal? it's very simple. now you don't have to debate constantly why didn't you try to repeal? we tried. it's off the table. now, let's get creative, and let me tell you, i have spent more time dealing with bureaucrats at cms and elsewhere in the administration, i apoll gil jio those of you who were there, in terms of trying to be creative, i was in a room and after one hou