a guy named bill henman, was the head of corporate finance for the sec, who played a role i guess inelieve that those two gentlemen, who by the way, we've reached out for comment. they say no, they don't want to come on so just so you know, i've tried to get them to give their side of the story. you think that they filed these cases and they have huge conflicts of interest. can you explain some of that? >> sure. here's what you have. you have jay clayton, whose the chairman of the sec, his law firm represents ethererum co- founders and competitors to ripple. bill henman works with semitism ton thatcher and it was a board member of the enterprise ethererum alliance while he was working at the sec he was having private meetings with these ethererum investors and collecting $15 million while working at the sec from the firm that's on the board of the ethererum alliance, after all these private meetings, charlie, he gives a speech that declares ethererum not a security, and we found out that these ethererum investors have the right to speech. charlie: are you going to depose them in your