i did not report to bill keller. i did not report to offer sulzberger, or anti rosenthal. i had complete independence to look into anything i chose to look into. i could not be fired unless i simply sat down and failed to perform in any way, or five violated the written ethics policies of "the new york times." >> i read your column almost every sunday. how many words did you write? did you -- did they have to publish what you wrote? >> they did have to publish what a road. my columns were about 1100 words long each. i try to hold them to 800 words, but it crept up. i captive at 1100 words. >> once they said, we want you to do this, here is what we will pay you, if the outside world knew what that was, would they say, that is what i expect, or, he has done this for nothing? know what people would expect. the pay was fair. i was satisfied with it. it was not a luxurious amount for me because my wife is an editor at "usa today," which is headquartered in the washington area. our home is here. i commuted regularly to new york. i would go there monday morning on amtrak and come

bill wrongly puts guns before the health and safety of families. as far the as the second amendment rights and especially with the keller decision, people have a right to own a gun. i'm not disputing that, but again, we are talking about bankruptcy and we are talking about those that collect guns and have many, many guns, which are worth a lot of money and they should be repaying that debt. and with that, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yeeltsdz back. the gentleman from california -- yields back. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. lungren: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. lungren: let me say at the very beginning, i understand the sincerity and strength and conviction of the gentlelady from new york on this issue. we have a disagreement with respect to the times when a firearm has been utilized to protect people from those who would other wise do them harm and i think there are some other reports that would suggest that that happens far more in instances than those incidents which result in harm to the owner of the gun or so