relationship between wikileaks leader julian assange and "the new york times" from "times" editor bill keller. >> i have labeled him an

and bill keller joins us now from the "times'" newsroom. mr. keller a mid what you call a wholesale security breach you had to make some immediate decisions about whether to proceed and how to deal with all this material. what was the key thing right off the bat in making those decisions? >> well, the first thing was really two things. it was is in stuff legitimate s it real. and is it of public interest. we sent one of our best military correspondents to london to look at the stuff, somebody, a guy named he ribling schmidt who had seen a lot of confidential military dispatches and he took some time to read through a lot of them. and assured us that yes, these were the real deal. and they they were quite interesting. >> brown: did you ever consider early on or even later not going ahead, not publishing. was there any argument, dissent about that at the times? >> no, there was considerable discussion of which cables we would publish and which, what material we might excise from those cables. but from early on, it was clear that we had something