courtesy of bill keller, i think. adam: he was our partner.e had this idea in all of the conversation about rikers, what was not properly understood was the life, if you thought of it as a city, the life of the city was about. our operating idea was what does it smell like. so we went to bill keller, and a former editor of the new york times, and we created a team. that team went and did a series of intimate oral accounts of what life was like for the prisoners, the guards, librarians, and teachers. really looked at it as if it were its own urban environment. very intimate. and harrowing, as you would imagine, and with some interesting storytelling. but also online supplemented in all kinds of ways with storytelling you can do online. charlie: the obama history project. a conversation about where he stands. adam: what is fascinating, i looked at it last night, they were responding -- it is amazing how fickle history is. they were responding, that piece was in january, they were responding to the events on the ground in january. any number of h