let's do bill kristol's. that will start another fight 37 bill writes about the kerry guarantee.magine the sophisticated case for not fully reassuring deal made by more sophisticated negotiator than john kerry. not perfect, but some visibility to the program is better than none. we'll probably pick up cheating once it's been going on for a while and as clint eastwood would put it, if you want a guarantee, buy a toaster. but we don't have a serious or sophisticated negotiator we have john kerry. so the deal will be catastrophic and the defense of it will be dishonest. i'm going to just go have a smoke even though i don't smoke and you guys just fight. first we'll start with you. why do you say he's a bad negotiate negotiator? >> it's referring to what he said in israel this week. he said i absolutely guarantee that we will have the ability to know what the iranians are doing so we can stop them if they decide to move to iraq. whateveror view is on negotiations are a annon iran, but no expert, no one who studies these programs think you can -- >> why do you think he's make the guar

. >> what about bill kristol's criticism of john kerry? >> yeah.his is -- >> he said it's going to be a catastrophe. >> this won't be a catastrophe. this is an important deal one that keeps us safer and more secure. that's the most important thing. what's really a catastrophe and dangerous here is the posturing that's happening on other side. >> joe, are you convinced that those who oppose this in america are on the wrong side of history? >> yes they are, and they are in a minority. it's clear. this is what the 151 democrats who signed the letter today represent. the american people are strongly in favor of this deal. you look at the polls, 60%, 65% approve this. the latest quinnipiac poll 77% of the american people prefer a diplomatic solution over war. the core of the american security establishment, brzezinski scowcroft, former joint chiefs of staff, strongly in favor of this diplomatic solution. there's a loud well-funded my north trying to make noise. bill kristol is trying to make money off of it. i understand it. ultimately he'll lose. >> so

bill kristol, editor of the weekly standard. keith ellison. s.e. cupp and donna brazile. u just heard from john kasich, it sure sounds like he's in? major candidate? >> yes, he's won one of the tough congressional districts. twice now governor of ohio. he'll be on the moderate side of the field. if you want a centrist republican, who's for common core this is accepted. >> immigration. >> he's moderately liberal, i think. but he's been a pretty effective governor of ohio. in terms of policy and politics. kasich will be strong. right now, he won't make the debate. >> but donald trump would. >> donald trump would and many others. a lot to talk about on the republican campaign trail, issues that republicans have a difficult time discussing. can he get out of that asterisk lane and get into what i call the speed zone in order to get into the top tier for iowa and new hampshire? i don't think so. >> all right, let me move on to rand paul, s.e. we saw him lead this battle. he wouldn't let the patriot act be extended one day. he held the line. >> yes, i think this is an unnecessar

bill kristol writes, we were right to invade iraq in 2003 and to remove saddam hussein and to completelyhe job we started in 1991 and the obama administration threw it all way. and here's lindsey graham. >> was the iraq war a mistake? >> no, i don't think so. the biggest mistake we made was leaving iraq, without a follow-on force against sound military advice. >> well, michael hanlan is a senior fellow with the brookings institute and michael tomasky. what do you make of the neocon argument? it's an ideological war, we admit it, we never really did believe in the wmd, we're glad we fought it, because we got rid of saddam hussein. >> yeah, well, look, saddam hussein was a really bad guy, chris. nobody argues with that. but the the world better off now? no. the world is not better off now. some portions of the iraqi population are probably better off. the kurds are probably better off. there's no complete black and complete white here. it's a very complicated picture. so, yeah, some people are better off because saddam hussein is gone, saddam hussein was a complete monster. is the world ov

. >> you took a shot at bill kristol in that front. i read the column. i read the column. >> i would call them hollow hawks. they talk the talk, but they really don't know what to say. marco rubio thinks he can become president by using movie slogans? ronald reagan did that with "make my day" and things like that. but he also had some policy behind it which you and i didn't agree with. but i think marco rubio thinks -- >> my memory is not that long. when did we last disagree? >> when was the last time? i don't know. mccarthy? >> i was with mccarthy. i was with gene. what were you telling me? i want to know what you're willing to fight about here. >> no, i don't want to fight. we disagree with ronald reagan. >> i disagree with ronald reagan. >> yes! i'm saying the same thing. >> all right. okay. >> but he used movie slogans. he thought it was useful. but he also had policy behind it. rubio has ditched the policy. he is just using the slogans, thinking that that somehow is going to register. >> i don't know. >> these guys are all setting themselves up for

. >> bill kristol, lindsey graham. >> they will know when you talk about them.w -- >> you have to fight before you can fight for any general election against hillary clinton, who i know you've been you know remarking on you have to win the gop nomination. and can you do it by alienating what was at least as of a few years ago said about 10% of the gop which is neocon surplus? >> yeah but here's the thing, megyn. i didn't start this. it's not my choice to start out by having a war with republicans. but i will tell you, for example, in polling in iowa about two months ago they asked the question are you -- do you favor rand paul's foreign policy of being less involved or do you favor john mccain anticipate policy of being more involved intervening for in war around the world and it's actually pretty evenly split. about half the republicans think, yeah john mccain is always right and we should have troops in 15 countries and be at war continuously but about half the party says you know what rand paul has a point. sometimes we get involved and it actually backfires

bill kristol, editor of the weekly standard. keith ellison, s.e. cupp and donna brazile. u just heard from john kasich, it sure sounds like he's in. >> i think he's in. >> major candidate or -- >> yes, he's been -- he's one a tough congressional district. twice now governor of ohio. he'll be on the moderate side of the field. but as jeb bush gets no traction why exactly isn't john kasich isn't more plausible? if you want a centrist republican, who's for common core, accepted the medicaid expansion -- >> immigration. >> immigration. he's moderately liberal, i think. but he's been a pretty effective governor of ohio. both in terms of policy and politics. not quite my kind of republican or conservative but i think in that lane kasich will be strong. it shows how insane the debate rules are that right now, he won't make the debate. >> wouldn't even come close but donald trump would. >> donald trump would and ben carson would and many others. a lot of credentials. a lot to talk about on the republican campaign trail, issues that republicans have a difficult time discussing. lik

why does bill kristol have all the influence. >> hasn't traveled outside the beltway enough. once he gets out into the rest of america in kentucky where we live in middle part of the america or anyone outside the beltway, there's a disconnect between the washington insiders and the rest of us in both parties. hillary clinton is much more hawkish and more likely to get us involved in another war, than most of america, republican or democrat. you see the little boomlet for other people on democrat side. people aren't so eager to believe that his his was right to take us to war in libya, and so i think you'll find that as it gets out to the regular voters outside of washington, there's a much more mixed and nuanced feeling about war. >> on a scale of 1 to 10 a dove being 0, hawk being 10 where's hillary? >> you know, i'm not sure exactly. >> is she a 7? >> well i think what she is i think she's been indiscriminate in the use of force and i think not thinking. there are people on both sides that are rational good thinkers. brent scowcroft, i'm not sure what side of the friends. b

with the opposing view is bill kristol of "the weekly standard," saying "we were right to go in there and to stay and to continue to stay." richard, what do you think? caller: i just get so tired of hearing the same answer from democrats. i'm glad representatives like mr. smith worked around in world war ii. we would have surrendered multiple times. let me correct him, and i'm going to send the article to his office. last year "the new york times" published an article that the cia found 5000 artillery shells that had sarin gas. the artillery shells were not ready to be fired. that is correct. but the sarin gas was still there. that was published in "the new york times." you keep hearing this mantra there were no weapons of mass destruction. it's pure nonsense. the reason we failed, and it is obvious from even to this former marine and aviator, that bremer messed this up by disbanding the iraqi army. the generals in the iraq he army then are the ones fighting is now in isis could everyone has agreed to that. there was no isis when there was the sunni awakening. everything was fine unti

. >> bill kristol. that. >> you know we need to do an event down at strands together. >> i'd love to. >> i'll bring the security. >> still ahead america's fourth largest city still under water. the latest from houston where the rain just keeps coming. who will stop the rain? that coming next. time upon a once people approached problems the way same. always start at the starting. and questions the same asking. but that only resulted in improvements small. so we've got some ideas new. garbage can create energy. light can talk. countries can run on jet engine technology. when you look at problems in ways different you new solutions find. ♪ ♪ the network that monitors her health. the secure cloud services that store her genetic data the servers and software on a mission to find the perfect match. and the mom who gets to hear her daughter's heart beat once again. we're helping organizations transform the way they work so they can transform the lives of the people they serve. ♪ where do you get this kind of c

bill kristol disagrees writing the opposing view saying, we were right to go in in the first place toet a -- to get rid of saddam hussein. we were right to endure over these years and president obama has squandered all of the gains made. maryland in texas, an independent. caller: i don't think we should be sending our finance and equipment over there for this fight. i think they take our stuff and use it against us. they want to do plead that they want to deplete our financial resources and use our equipment against us. a better strategy would be for nike to go in there and sell them tennis shoes that way they can get away faster. host: brad in minnesota. caller: i do not know what they expect when they elect a community organizer that does not listen to any of his generals. he has been through more secretaries of defense than anyone. what do you expect? we got a smart frat boy that is running our country. host: jimmy in odin texas. what do you think? caller: good morning. these iraq is not fighting. they fought well enough to kill 4500 of our troops. now, 1000 of them cannot defeat 3