you got a guy named bill kristol right now it wasn't too long ago that liberals in america were talking about bloody bill bill kristol neo con he's a guy he's just he's a war monger and now he's being lauded by the leftist he goes on rachel maddow on these shows and he's he is considered to be a hero amongst. a what do you make of that it's an astonishing fact i mean kristol was one of the leading proponents of the iraq war everything he and his neo con. colleagues who promoted that war everything they predicted was catastrophic we wrong i mean this has to rank as one of the worst foreign policy it ventures for lack of a better term in american history the idea that this guy is now even i mean he you know he shouldn't be allowed on t.v. i mean the guy has i mean it's not an exaggeration to say he has blood on his hands as one of the primary architects of that war a lot of our thoughts and rachel maddow how can she go from being this make this one hundred eighty degree turn and now is it is is a pure v. anality is it just is purely corrupt and has no integrity whatsoever and we shouldn't

eli stokols, white house reporter for the aforementioned "los angeles times" and bill kristol, a veteran of the reagan and bush administrations, editor at large for "the weekly standard." gentlemen, thank you both for coming in. bill, does it -- when we say that rosenstein could keep his job until right after the midterms, does that make it any better that he would be fired immediately after the midterms? >> yeah, no, that's a good point. everyone takes solace if trump won't do anything until november 7th. >> what -- >> he fires sessions and rosenstein on november 7th, the day after the midterms, where are we then in terms of the justice department and the mueller investigation? i don't know that trump would fire mueller or shut it down. i've talked to people who have experience with these investigations. there's a lot rosenstein appears have to venn to move obstacles that might exist. to allow the southern district of new york to coordinate with mueller. to approve certain things that might be controversial. you know, michael cohen's office and stuff. different person in there with auth

appointments available now. >>> resuming our conversation, eli stokols and bill kristol remain with usur new york studios. eli, the scenario bill just laid out of the firing of rosenstein, what republicans do you see standing up being willing to die on that hill to protect mueller? >> i don't know how many. i think there may be a handful of them. it there pay be some of the ones like the jeff flakes and bob corkers of the world and then perhaps richard burr, you know, somebody who's had a role as a chair of a committee that has been pretty sort of nonpartisan in his approach to them. i just -- it remains to be seen. at every point, we have watched this play out and we have said, when mueller was appointed and all the republicans were saying mueller is a great guy, you know, impeccable credentials and a lot of the same people have now, you know, basically taken the president's side. so every time you expect people to sort of step back from politics and do something that is motivated not by political interests but national interests, a lot of times they've been disappointed. >> it is ama

i mean it's insane bill kristol is effectively a professional liar i mean he advocated for the iraq war in one of the most just honest ways promoted a bunch of lies that terrified the american people i mean the american war is peace i forget about that very problem for i have say good bye and that are well and note thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you that's going to do it for this edition of the guys are part of things guys are safe here but i think our guest can some are saying he's the editor in chief of the washington babylon dot com an excellent web site john to catch us on twitter as kaiser report until i stop by off . in twenty forty you know bloody revolution of. the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know we're here to put a premium put to do it through me in the new bill is that i do believe it or the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. it invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these an article that will ensu

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i mean it's insane bill kristol is effectively a professional liar i mean he advocated for the iraq war in one of the most just honest ways promoted a bunch of lies that terrified the american people i mean the american war is peace i forget about that any problems or have taken by him that are well in note thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you that's going to do it for this edition of the guys are part of the nice guys are safe here but i think i just can't some are saying he's the editor in chief of the washington babylon dot com an excellent web site john to catch us on twitter as kaiser report into like i off. the wall we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy foundation let it be an arms race is on offense clearly a dramatic development only really i'm going to lose east i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and tom. not that who gets down to the leaks floors lead. when you. look at that is was more than a book a movie about. it's course it's the it's. just show. it's hard to imagine decades after the war

and msnbc christian ferragus and bill kristol. >> maya, when you look at the rudy argument there, if everything is on the table potentially, that means mueller would face trump in a certain situation, by woodward's reporting undercutting that and would make it seem like this is all posturing. put that not context of bob mueller sending a trump aide to jail today. >> well, if -- first of all, let's just say, a broken clock is right twice a day. and the broken clock of donald trump has said he's afraid of a perjury trap. that's actually rudy giuliani talking point, which is interesting that the president used that today. i think what we have heard from the president is that he is concerned, despite the fact that he has repeatedly expressed his willingness. if i'm donald trump, i'm going to listen to my lawyers and i'm not going to talk to bob mueller. the reality is, it's going to call into question whether or not mueller's going to then take the step of a grand jury subpoena. i don't think you're going to see that anytime soon because of the midterm elections, obviously. but if you're

ladies and gentlemen, bill kristol. [applause] >> good evening. nd welcoming you to this annual dinner. and congratulating the 15th irving kristol award and a distinct group. before that there were about a quarter century of francis for your awards and that's a distinct group if you look it up. going back to 1977. remember when in 2003 they told my father that the aei board had voted to change the annual award and lecture to the irving kristol lecture and my father was not much moved by these kinds of honors honestly but that one meant something to him. i remember later on talking to him and think of you feel guilty or bad about francis lawyer and i father said no, not really. [laughter] he had a good run. the irving kristol award had a good run and hopefully has a few more years but it's a dog eat dog world out there so creative destruction and all that stuff that people at a high so anyway. it's has been a wonderful group and people like charles murray and rabbi jonathan and benjamin netanyahu and by looking over the list i am reminded that charl

ladies and gentlemen, bill kristol. [applause] mr. kristol: good evening. it's an honor to join arthur and congratulations to boris johnson on i think the 15th irving kristol award. before that, there was about a quarter century of francis moyer award, always a great stick with group if you look it up. -- great distinguished group if you look at. i remember in 2003, i told my father they voted to change the award from the francis boyer lecture to the irving kristol lecture. my father was not much moved by these kinds of honors, honestly. but that one meant something to him. i remember later on talking to him and saying, don't you feel a little guilty about francis boyer? and my father said no, not really. [laughter] he had a good run. the irving kristol has had a good run, and hopefully it has a few good years and it. but it's a dog eat dog world out there, destruction that aei people are in favor of. [laughter] beenristol: anyway, it has a group. rabbi jonathan sacks, benjamin netanyahu. i'm looking over the list, reminded that -- who sadly died this summe

and bill kristol, a veteran of the reagan and bush administrations and editor at large of the "weeklyard." bill, in the hurricane coverage business they talk about an eyewall replacement cycle, like putting an electric mixer into a cake mix. you see the constant churn as it goes on down through the core. are we watching some sort of replacement cycle in the republican party? >> i hadn't thought of that analogy. that's very good. very good, brian. tying together the two big stories of the day. it could be. i don't know -- well, we'll see a smaller republican delegation in the house, probably a minority in the house. ironically, it will be more trumpy, more conservative. a lot of the moderates are going to lose. in the npr poll, for example, which is i think plus 12 overall, it's unbelievable. men are 50-42 republican. women are 28 -- 62-28 democratic. it's the biggest gender gap i've ever seen. it's two, three, four times the typical gender gap, which always women are a little more democratic. i had breakfast with a pollster this morning who said what's striking is in the past college

years later the same journalist that had us believing back then are at the same thing now take bill kristol editor of the weekly standard back in two thousand and three he had us convinced that saddam hussein was on the verge of using his w m d's against the world no one questions furthermore the basic facts about saddam hussein's weapons. now he was very wrong but that did not stop his career not by a long shot in fact he's still the editor of the weekly standard which ironically has been named a fact checker by facebook he comes on television all the time promoting u.s. military interventions just like the old days when you do what a google dictator worth the fight to do what you do is he's in his he's in his departure and i think we could do much more to do that if we don't just do a pinprick attack and i think the sponsor of the case concerning the concern of all of us hawks but a serious attack now another voice in the media chorus backing u.s. military intervention against saddam hussein was judith miller judith miller writing for the new york this is don't even make it into the spotl

bill kristol and nick confisore for "the new york times." let's start with you sung min. >> so major breaking news. we're still waiting for chairman grassley to -- chuck grassley to release his statement on this and any response because if you recall, there were some ways that grassley and his staff and senate republicans were willing to accommodate dr. ford and her testimony. earlier this week they had offered perhaps flying senate investigators out to california to speak with her there at her home if that would make her feel more comfortable. they offered public sessions, private sessions. but the one thing -- two things they weren't budging on was that monday date as well as the -- their view that an fbi investigation before she testifies was not necessary. but now dr. ford through her attorneys has offered a timeline that's not too far from the monday date line. she's still saying she's willing to come next week. she's still asking for that fbi investigation, and this aligns with what democratic senators called for, for days, when all th

ladies and gentlemen bill kristol. congratulating boris johnson. it's a distinguished group that they have joined. that's always a very extinguished group. they told my father that the board have voted to change the annual award and lecture my father i was not much moved by these kind of honors obviously. but that one meant something to him. do you feel a little guilty or a little bad about francis bowyer. he have a good run. it has have a good run. with the people like charles murray. in the second award. and really a wonderful talk. my mother who is slightly indisposed. she's in good shape. can be here tonight. center since her best to 70 old friends. in the former colleagues. it's good that they give the award to a magazine editor. i said my mother, she said i love it. they have read it since. they became mayor of london. it's not just a the magazine editor. it's what i certainly agree with. it is when the sale say a word of about my father at this time but about arthur. and are there did not know i was good to do this. they were also extraordin

what joule rewas saying like republican party isn't party of ideas and you can go on msnbc and bill kristol or george talking so -- >> irony of thing is -- part of trumpism is -- is rabbit intellectualism. my friend tom -- and my friend tom nichols about the death of expertise and they say well you guys didn't beat obama. and therefore, everything you've ever done is a failure. well you know, people like us that build this system elected george bush a couple times and politics is win and lose game and sometime use win and sometime use lose and selected over 1,000 republicans to state legislatures all over this country state wide all over this country and we have a quiet e revolution of people who knew what they were doing and now -- if you want to go ahead to take out smartly targeted and tested tv ads based oner data and outreach programs base on research and polling survey and substitute it for rallies with a blond guy screaming kick their as on the stage and try it that way. see how 18 works and see how 20 works you want to go with trumpism. so that depth of expertise is embedded in trum

bill kristol has marginalized himself. he used to be fairly respected.he vote in the national election. i think that tells you everything you need to know about bill kristol's influence and the attempt to derail the duly elected president, donald trump. katie: governor huckabee, faith is always a big issue in these issues, presidential and midterm midterm. how will faith impact the upcoming elections here in 50- 50-plus states? >> well, faith voters really do make a huge difference. in fact, they were the reason that president trump is president. there was a record turnout of faith voters and a record support for this president. and i think they have been more than overwhelmingly pleased, not necessarily with his language, not necessarily with his style, but with the results. and ultimately that's what matters. i'm honorary chairman of a group called "my faith votes." our job is to try to get people to pray, think, and vote. and the real goal is just to inform people that they need to register. if something like 85 million faith voters in this country we

if i was bill kristol and editing conservative magazine, i would have to have a really well thought out position on every public policy issue facing the country. i'm not a magazine editor, i'm a book editor and i have to be prepared to publish everyone on both sides of the question. : : : >> the thing is, that what it means to be a conservative is constantly changing. one of the things that i've learned in my 30 years as a book editor, that, you know, first of all, there's a great deal of variety within the conservative world. most people who are not in that world don't recognize that. but, you know, there are many different ways to be conservative, and, you know, in a philosophical sense, all americans are liberal because our country was founded as part of the liberal movement, of the 18th century. the liberal revolutions of the 19th century. also influenced -- were influenced by the american revolution and the american constitution. and since the founding of this country, the progress of liberal values, equality, justice, fairness, diversity, representation have -- you know, have marc

this person is clearly a conservative >> this person is a trump -- >> you heard of a guy named bill krist kristole never trumpers, 97% of them are republicans. >> have somebody who worked in the white house -- >> out of 1200 >> trump may not even know this guy. the "new york times" better have checked that this is not just someone in the weeds out of 1200 that they get to write that. >> i don't know who this person is i can't -- i have to -- >> if it's not a high-profile senior level person -- it has to be someone that -- >> my guess would be that it is. we'll find out eventually. >> the times wouldn't do this -- >> let's hope not. >> they wouldn't do this without it being somebody significant. not just a deputy undersecretary >> the real concern this raises is that this goes to the issue of command and control within this white house >> there's nothing new you have people actively trying to undermine him and thwart him in the administration, it raises the question of who is in charge here of the united states government >> what facts in the op-ed in the "new york times" took it further than what