but bill leech -- >> no, no, no. spent on second justice henry had just -- >> recovering from a heart attack. but bill leech had another problem? >> you can get all this straight if you just read the book. [laughter] >> bill leech have a lot of problems. he just argued before the united states supreme court. he had this opinion issue about whether not this is legal. and his wife was back at the hospital giving birth. and bill had rented a room at the sheraton right across from the courthouse, catty corner across from and. we discuss where we are going to meet and we decide that we're going to meet in his hotel room. that was kind of command central if you will. and later on we were joined by -- >> kind of ask for a minute, was the press anywhere around this? >> they were in the hotel, room 416 come because they wanted to avoid the press. spent they meaning stated the lawyers were in the hotel room. >> we went to great lengths to get there. bill, he took the tunnel underneath the capital and came out and had a driver

[laughter] >> bill leech told you you were not the governor. he says, well, i'll come down there, and louis says, i won't let you in. >> question. yes? the dean at -- [inaudible] >> keel, when did you start the book? what inspired you to start the book? why is it coming out now, maybe not 10 or 15 years ago? >> well, a good question. it took me about a year and a half to write it, finished it about a year or so ago. sue with the vanderbilt university press is in the back of the room, sue, thank you. she and her colleagues took some time to do their good work, and i'd like to also recognize richard mccarty who linked me up with the vanderbilt university press and vice chancellor beth fortune is also here. it took a while for the press to do their work. probably the better answer, the research, all these interviews. but it was fun to do because it took me back to my reporter days, and in some ways this book is as much about journalists as it is about politicians. but that took a while. so we probably started the interviews five, six years ago, an

know, this did not occur to me until we talked about it, but i didn't know ned and john wilder and bill leech. i mean, i knew them, you know, we met, but we had never work together, and i was this new, young republican governor in the democrat establishment that had grown up over a half century. i mean everything was democratic. the newspaper, the lobbyists, the spring courts, everything was, and so how was this going to work the next four years, hopefully eight, from my point of view, but in that four or five hours, we found a way to work together on a way that was more difficult than we'd ever deal with in four the eight years, and developed a level of trust and respect for one another, and that carried on the whole time, and so when we got into how we going to, you know, pay for the road program? are we going to borrow money? raise taxes? talked about how to deal with the national education association, rewarding teaching, and we got a way to do it, a result, and so i was lucky. we survived the four or five hours, and it gave me a boot camp of how to get along with some really very, very g

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