i will go down starting with bill leonard. bill is on my left, you're right. he is now the chief operating officer of the national endowment for democracy. for 34 years, he was in the federal government, and he served -- the last position he served in was as director of the information security oversight office. a very, very important although not necessarily known office in the public, but he was responsible to the president for the policy oversight of the executive branch's classification system. essentially what it meant is, to put it in the more washington vernacular, he was the classifications are and have access to -- the classification czar. it was his job to make sure that what was supposed to be classified is and what is not supposed to declassify it is not. before his appointment to the director of isoo, he served in the defense department. i should say as a matter of personal disclosure, the day he resigned, i sent him a letter. at that point the aipac espionage case that you heard of -- we were in the midst of the defense and we were desperate to f

bill leonard was on my list. fortunately, he was retired with nothing to do. he agreed to serve as a defense expert in the case. let's to bill we have mike isikoff. mike is a prominent journalist, investigative reporter with nbc news. he was named the national investigative respondent in june 2010, reports for "nightly news today" and msnbc. he's the author of two selling books, "hubris the inside story of the spin sandal" and his other book is "uncovering clinton: an investigators story." he joined after being with the "washington post" since september of '81. next to him, we have lucy dalglish. she serves as the executive committee for the freedom of the press. we're going to get the journalist perspective. the reporters committee of which she's the executive director is a voluntary association of news editors dedicated to protecting the first amendment and first amendment interest of the news media. before assuming that position ten years ago, he was a media lawyer for five years with the firm of dorsey and whitney. she was also a reporter herself, reporter

i will go down starting with bill leonard. bill is on my left, you're right. he is now the chief operating officer of the national endowment for democracy. for 34 years, he was in the federal government, and he served -- the last position he served in was as director of the information security oversight office. a very, very important although not necessarily known office in the public, but he was responsible to the president for the policy oversight of the executive branch's classification system. essentially what it meant is, to put it in the more washington vernacular, he was the classifications are and have access to -- the classification czar. it was his job to make sure that what was supposed to be classified is and what is not supposed to declassify it is not. before his appointment to the director of isoo, he served in the defense department. i should say as a matter of personal disclosure, the day he resigned, i sent him a letter. at that point the aipac espionage case that you heard of -- we were in the midst of the defense and we were desperate to f

. >> reporter: consumer services secretary bill leonard is headed to the exit along with the rest ofovernor schwarzenegger's cabinet. others will follow, part of politics but stale source offing anst. >> need to support their families and they like what they are doing and they have -- they are not sure what the options are yet. >> a tough economy. those that need to transition to the private sector will go through all the ankle night many people are going through in california with high unemployment. >> reporter: it was seven years ago today, the world within witnessed an unprecedented spectacle, an action movie star trading hollywood for the governorship. >> congratulations, governor schwarzenegger. >> reporter: fiscal hard times by contrast, jerry brown's inaugural is expected to be lean and low key and his hiring promises that theme. >> reduce the governor's office significantly. >> reporter: are how many jobs will jerry brown seek to fill and how many will simply be left as holdovers from the schwarzenegger administration? former tv reporter mcelroy covers two terms and says most

i want to focus on another factor, and i am going back and picking on bill leonard again with the question. that is, you have heard that in government officials, when they talk to folks, state department folks have to interact, white house folks interacting with folks out there, they do so after having read a host of classified documents. do they get, in your experience, generated for him or for her, a non-classified set of talking points each time he gets a reporter pasquale? or does he somehow -- a ?eporter's call >> it is clearly the latter. in fact, i refer to no less an expert and former vice-president cheney on this issue. if you take a look at the statement he gave to the fbi in conjunction with skimpy -- >> scooter liddy. -- scooter libby. >> i'm sorry. he was quite open about the information that he routinely disclosed to reporters would be very similar to information that would appear in intelligence reports, and in that particular case it was in national intelligence estimate. he indicated he would purely allow those classified documents to inform his decisions and in for his co