he is saying things that are compelling. >> the bottom line is i am calling on bill marr to apologize for his op-ed and a boycott of the new york times. john you said you would like to shoot bill maar in the groin were a bb gun. >> i said [bleep]. >> i know. i am trying to save our editors. by raising the topic again i cost them more. why just once? >> andy. >> because i'm pretty sure if he has any [bleep] he only has one so shoot it. >> i do not condone this conversation. >> neither do i. i just want to know. >> and i want to add, he has two, trust me. call me, bill. >> that is like literally you made the same joke this show. >> calling, talking? >> never mind, never mind. let's talk about the media matters thing. is calling for a boycott or taking out ads against someone , is that wrong? >> it is not wrong, but if the liberals do it against us, the republicans never do it against the liberals organs marr. it is lopsided. >> to be fair, ed schulz, wasn't he suspended? they shut him down pretty fast, i believe. >> i believe he was suspended with pay which greg as you know is vacation.

. >> talking about not giving bill marr's money back because he made a comment about sarah palin.obama to order any pac to send any money back but they're trying to obfuscate that whole thing. but, yeah, the false analogies and the false comparisons, that's what they have filled up the last two or three weeks doing, rather than saying, rush, we love you, this was stupid. it was -- everyone does it, everyone does it, you know people -- not everyone does it and, again, this is why it struck a nerve. no one else has ever done this really. >> well, and this is, by the way, what i said to sean handity i will defend rush as a liberal and a woman i think boycotts hurt all of us in the radio business. if you admit everybody that glek, since clear channel replaced me with him i love it, don't you? eric boehlert remains in the side car as we continue right wing world. kids carbonite, do you not have it, you're at your computer at home, you get a advisors virus you lose all of those files if you're not backing them up. >> that was a moment here. >> just because you're on tv you don't have to

[laughter] >> i love that. >> you quoting bill marr is something i thought i'd never hear. >> listen, and i go into this in detail in my book. you have the situation of senator lisa murkowski in alaska. the tea party runs an opponent, cannibalize her, they beat her. she decides to try a writein can you imagine the difficulty of writing in murkowski if you use a y instead of an i your ballot's out. and she won. and that experience shows that if you -- if you educate the electorate and motivate the electorate you can bring back moderates in government. she's a good example. her example is the way for the future to make congress work. >> do you feel -- what do you feel like this election cycle is going to hold? i mean, do you think there's going to be some sort of return to reason? >> well, that remains to be seen. there's naturally going to be the heaviest emphasis on the presidency but no matter who is elected for president without a congress which works together and passes legislation nothing will happen but that's why i wrote the book and that's why i'm so happy to talk to you about

host: some of our tweeters are talking about a bill marr. he made comments about sarah palin.that what rush limbaugh did? caller: you cannot help but if you are born black or born a woman. i am going to facebook right now to have rush limbaugh removed from the airwaves. i am of the opinion that rush limbaugh has so much money, he can keep this thing in court for two or three election cycles. host: is that similar? guest: there is no place for this kind of dialogue. i would argue that in the case of rush limbaugh, he has gone so far. he has done very little to get himself out of it. i was so insulted by the first round of statements. i was shocked that he doubled down the next day. instead of having an apology, he threw something up on his blog over the weekend. this is on an american airwaves. it is enough. he has been doing this for years and now he is insulting 51% of the population. our daughters, mothers, grandmothers. it is unacceptable. i certainly hope that he is done. the best way to do that is for all of us to join together to say, it needs to end. everybody has to fo

bill marr has a piece in the new york times this week that is called "please stop apologizing." guest: " i think the system is working. the framers were right. don't shush rush limbaugh. the state should not shush him or me. the fact that the sponsors have risen up, this is a fabulous demonstration of our democracy and the ability of sponsors to make their own judgment about what is good for their logo, their company, and their stockholders. hooray for that. by the way, all this has happened without any kind of state intervention. i love america and i'm proud to be an american. host: let's get an independent caller in plymouth, wisconsin on the conversation, kurt. caller: good morning. i am a 72-year-old american, a veteran of the cold war. this is my opinion about war. we have not fought a war since 1972. world war ii in the eastern theater against germany waws won by total annihilation, total destruction. same. the stam what we have now is congress is declaring war when they don't mean war. war is hell and that is by definition. you have to go in and totally destroy the other